Another river conundrum from eupho.

unknown villain, 100bb deep.


THIRTYPOINT - Posts small blind $0.25
WANKOLNIKOV - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to EUPHOLOGI [7 6]
DZIZZLE - Raises $2 to $2
TOLEDOBULL - Calls $2
EUPHOLOGI - Calls $2
THIRTYPOINT - Folds
WANKOLNIKOV - Folds
*** FLOP *** [8 6 5]
DZIZZLE - Checks
TOLEDOBULL - Bets $3.50
EUPHOLOGI - Raises $10 to $10
DZIZZLE - Folds
TOLEDOBULL - Calls $6.50
*** TURN *** [8c 6s 5h] [Q]
TOLEDOBULL - Checks
EUPHOLOGI - Checks
*** RIVER *** [8c 6s 5h Qs] [9]
TOLEDOBULL - Bets $10
EUPHOLOGI - Raises $30 to $30
TOLEDOBULL - All-In(Raise) $36.45 to $46.45
EUPHOLOGI - All-In $14.85

*opps*

what exactly does oops mean here? Oops, fold preflop? Oops you got screwed? Oops, stupid river raise?

Originally Posted by euphoricism

Oops, stupid river raise?

*shrug* Looks like you ran into a hand.

Actually, he said OPPS

If all you have a is one carder straight, I would just call.

Call river, don't raise it. I also like a big turn bet since TP or mid pair better kicker will probably fold and the same straight draw may also.

bet turn. call river.

I'd play same but just call river.

Originally Posted by Massimo

I also like a big turn bet since TP or mid pair better kicker will probably fold and the same straight draw may also.

thank you, bet turn. great card IMO to fire again

I think this is a hand like As8s quite often given the raise on the river. Just flat call, you raise accomplishes little. Your just building a pot for the split. If he has top or two then he folds given the 4 straight and flush on river. He calls with a flush. He calls with a split. So what does the raise really do? maximizes his return on the flush

yeah, dont raise the river - he is never calling this without at least a straight, and your just losing more money when he has a higher str8 or a flush.

so this is never a set that missed a c/r on the turn?

id raise a lot more on flop and shove turn usually here

Originally Posted by sauce123

id raise a lot more on flop and shove turn usually here

You so crazy!

I guess you got backdoored, but I am not sure a raise on river is bad. It looks terrible because he puts the rest in, so clearly he has TJ (gutshot!) or A8s