Anyone make this call?

Does anyone make this call vs. a 30/20/3.0 guy that you only have 50 hands on but you feel would bluff the flush card? In limited hands, he has won 60% W$WSF and this just feels bluffy.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($76.30)
UTG ($147.95)
Hero ($85)
Button ($70)
SB ($142.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) J, 8, 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14.

River: ($48.50) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero??
Hero says: I wish I had a bluff catcher here?


Final Pot: $48.50

I think raising would be better than calling here. But I fold this pretty quick.

you are way overthinking this imo. please explain how this is at all bluffy. its like level 1 flush line -- c/c until flush hits, then bet

why would villain c/c flop/turn only to bluff when the flush came? Either way you are beat in this spot 99.9% of the time and you need to fold. And take the free card imo on the turn.

Same as in your other thread -- If u suspect he's drawing and you don't have a hand either, no point in firing the turn. you can still take the pot away on the river if you think the draw missed and u still don't have a hand.

Betting the turn seems pretty marginal, I check through the majority of the time unless I have some sort of read. Calling river is throwing money away.

check behind turn, fold river.

What they said ^^^^^^^^

You have a good draw and an overcard that may be good. You can't afford to not see the river.

I thought the K was a good card to 2 barrel here vs a maniac. It also gave me a GSSD.
If he hasn't raised and I give up on the turn I know I'm seeing a lead on the river.
I wanted to call b/c the river completed the FD & paired board which is the perfect card for these bad LAGs to rep on the river. I don't know I guess some of my reasoning for wanting to call was just getting a feeling from his earlier play.
FWIW, asshole flashes me Q9 after I fold.
God I am playing fishy right now. I must be tilting, wanting to make that call and letting it upset me.

Originally Posted by mixchange

you are way overthinking this imo. please explain how this is at all bluffy. its like level 1 flush line -- c/c until flush hits, then bet

why would villain c/c flop/turn only to bluff when the flush came? Either way you are beat in this spot 99.9% of the time and you need to fold. And take the free card imo on the turn.

Same as in your other thread -- If u suspect he's drawing and you don't have a hand either, no point in firing the turn. you can still take the pot away on the river if you think the draw missed and u still don't have a hand.

Originally Posted by Silly String

I thought the K was a good card to 2 barrel here vs a maniac. It also gave me a GSSD.
If he hasn't raised and I give up on the turn I know I'm seeing a lead on the river.
I wanted to call b/c the river completed the FD & paired board which is the perfect card for these bad LAGs to rep on the river. I don't know I guess some of my reasoning for wanting to call was just getting a feeling from his earlier play.
FWIW, asshole flashes me Q9 after I fold.
God I am playing fishy right now. I must be tilting, wanting to make that call and letting it upset me.

What the others said. You don't need to barrel when you have a good draw and position. If you are OOP in this same situation then a barrel is much better. And don't be results oriented, it was a good fold. Villain's play was horrible, he was just lucky that you were bluffing also. Now he probably thinks he is Phil Ivey.

if he's a maniac like you say wait for a better spot

Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz

if he's a maniac like you say wait for a better spot

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