and how would strategy change in response to a raise? Would you advocate a reraise to represent a big pair and find out the true strength of the raisers hand? Or a flat-call and give the hand up if u dont hit a pair? Or is there no +EV way to play this without weighing other factors besides the cards dealt? Personally I have lost money playing these two hands OOP, particularly AQ(s) since even when I do hit I tend not to get paid off and lose the bottle to continue with aggression beyond the flop in case the pot becomes too hard to give up. 'youre gonna have to play some poker' - never truer words spoken smackin!