AQs monotone flop 4-way

Villain is 37/25/1 over a small sample. Didn't get out of line so far. Turn/river plan?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $57.17
UTG+1: $94.75
Hero: $261.78
Button: $411.15
SB: $193.95
BB: $58

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $11, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($48, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $34, Button calls, 2 folds.

Turn: ($116, 2 players)

Hero ? (212$ behind)

Pattern Mapper sez he's either on the flush draw or you're in for a world of hurt.

Check

Originally Posted by Fnord

Pattern Mapper sez he's either on the flush draw or you're in for a world of hurt.

Check

Could you elaborate?

If he checks behind, bet/fold most rivers? Fold if he bets the turn big?

Originally Posted by johnny_fish

Could you elaborate?

Do you DARE question the great Pattern Mapper?!?!?!?!

Alright. He flat called your c-bet with 2 players remaining to act. A lukewarm hand will often raise there to isolate your c-bet (which into 3 players doesn't figure to be too light, but is still a wide enough range Ax would figure to be in pretty good shape) and force the players behind him to commit or fold. With a draw or very strong hand, he will just call your light bet and hope someone else gets dragged into the pot. Furthermore, the multi-way nature of this pot will force him to play his hand a little more straight up than he might heads-up.

Another plausable scenario is that he's floating Tx to see what's up and if you really have an Ace or just because he's stubborn post-flop. If that's what's up, he just got there.

All that being said, more information on him than just PT pre-flop numbers would help further clairify things.

I check and see what he does. Maybe I call, maybe I fold, I might even push. I'm crazy like that. CRAZY I TELL YOU.

Check and play some poker. Your top pair is not a hand worth getting too attached to so don't feel bad chucking it. It's not like you just flopped bottom set in a reraised pot on a TJQs board. That would suck. This... eh, no big deal.

Honestly, I don't see him raising a lukewarm hand here with people behind him yet to act. A lot of people get scared and will just call with something iffy. I really can't see him calling with a ten on this board and with people behind him either unless he's an idiot.

So check and call something small and hope he gives you a cheap showdown. If he bets anything substantial go ahead and fold because he's going to make it a real bitch to play the river.

Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp

I really can't see him calling with a ten on this board and with people behind him either unless he's an idiot.

We haven't ruled this out yet.

If he has a hand like KTo, QTo, JTo, they are all calling these flop bets here if they have they have a big heart. You've got to check behind here.

Fnord, your mapper must be broken. Mine has the Queen of hearts coming on the river.

Good point fnord, good point eclipse. I didn't think of a ten + heart sticking around. If you somehow ended up in this pot, would you call with T + nonking heart?

Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp

Good point fnord, good point eclipse. I didn't think of a ten + heart sticking around. If you somehow ended up in this pot, would you call with T + nonking heart?

fuck no.

....and its ELIPSESjeff to you sir

oh yea lol. for like a year I read it as eclipse until you mentioned it being elipses. then I forgot again forever until now. I like being real quick like, you know?

Ok, didn't think things through and was focusing on the FD so I bet planning to fold to a push..

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $57.17
UTG+1: $94.75
Hero: $261.78
Button: $411.15
SB: $193.95
BB: $58

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $11, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($48, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $34, Button calls, 2 folds.

Turn: ($116, 2 players)
Hero bets $75, Button calls.

River: ($266, 2 players)
Hero ? (142$ left)

It seems every 2K hands or so I just donate $$ with a hand like this

Well, at least the river was a complete blank. That turn bet inflated the pot too much. Unless you have some kind of read that he's a one card flush chasing fish who bluffs big on missed draws, you're gonna have to check and fold here.

minbet!!

Originally Posted by gabe

minbet!!

for real?

Fnord used my jackoff icon. I feel so honored.

i dont know, im currently researching the psychology surrounding the minbet.

once u minbet he raises with atc and u have no clue where u are

My weak ass flop play:
Is it too terribly weak to check from the cut-off and wait till a safe turn card drops before putting any money into this 4-way pot with a bad flop? This will control the pot size with a very marginal holding due to flop texture. Too weak?

Originally Posted by scarface737

once u minbet he raises with atc and u have no clue where u are

welllll if he raises with ATC then we have a better clue than if we just checked