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 Originally Posted by Lukie
Originally Posted by Miffed22001
how many times do you lead with a flush draw, flush/gutshot or any pair here into the preflop raisor?
Really depends, even 3-way my range is much wider then set on the flop. But leading into 2 players twice out of position really narrows my range down. It's not exclusively set at this point but I think it's fair to say that a big part of my range is. What is far more important is what my opponent perceives my range to be here, and like I said I'm pretty much playing with cards face up on the table, and I think he expects me to have a set here. I don't think that he thinks I'll ever lay it down. Or lay it down nearly enough for even a semi-bluff to be even remotely profitable.
The only thing i see here is that opp read you for a set and knew he couldnt bloat the pot on the flop as you'd probably get it all in so he called on the flop and went at a big bluff on the turn perhaps with a flush draw or something else because he thought you might fold bottom set if you know he doesnt spew postflop.
Having said that it could just be simple set over set and the way players play is more importnat than the actual cards. Eg. If you cant beat his push range here you dont call, simple as...
Good point, I'm not quite as familiar with this player as it seems like bdawg was so I really don't know what his range here is. I think set/straight makes up a good chunk of it. I don't know if this player semi-bluffs for a stack on the turn with 2 players showing a lot of interest in the hand, but it's not out of the question and I'd expect to see some kind of combo draw here more often then a naked flush draw. Maybe a hand like Ts9s. Maybe this is bad, but my assumption about guys like this is that they rarely make moves like that.
if hes capable of thinking, i was wondering how deep.
I think you lay this down because you dont beat much that is his range, id just be interested if he might have the straight a whole lot here.
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