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				 Re: BVB AK make nitty river fold vs. passive player?
				
					
						
	The key stat we need is missing: AF?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by mixchange 15/11 player, doesnt 3b. No crazy moves. I figured I have to call because a FD is enough of his range, but I haven't really seen him bluff so I figured him for 2p here. I don't think he bets KJ/K10 
 The 15/11 only defines a certain number of hands preflop, and on the fringes of that cold calling range (depending upon villain) is KJs and maybe A9s+ that might play this line.
 
 You said in title he's passive. How do we know?
 
 
 
	Why not? He could have KJs, easily, and betting TPWK with flush draw outs - which don't hit. Or he could have a naked King and think top pair is good.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by mixchange I don't think he bets KJ/K10 
 The only two pair hand possible is KQ, and putting him on this narrow range even on the river seems silly - he could have a bunch of great draws  and combo hands that missed and just be firing a weak bluff on the river to try to nab the pot. I'm probably betting the turn and check/calling the river. But I need more info.
 
 There's a big difference between AF = 1.7 passive and AF = 0.3 passive, and we need to know #hands and AF to make any decent HUD read, here. BTW, 15/11 is reasonably agro preflop, so we need evidence to think of him as weak-tight postflop. A solid note or AF stats, please.
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