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  1. #1
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    Default BvB, NFD raised on flop

    Simple little hand, stack size made it a bit awkward for me. I don't know if I had any reads or stats on the villain at the time, so let's assume he's unknown and our image is nittag. C-bet size should probably be closer to pot? What do we do on flop, and what is plan for later streets?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($398)
    Hero ($533.60)
    BB ($1052.40)
    UTG ($451.60)
    MP ($216.20)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 3.
    3 folds, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $10.

    Flop: ($28) 2, 6, 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $20, BB raises to $64, HalvSame..??
  2. #2
    i would say puke and shove. but stacks are deep enough that i think that's not the best play.

    call here...and C/R a blank turn depending on how big he bets the turn.
  3. #3
    3bet or call and cr any turn all in
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  4. #4
    Which play has more FE, 3bet the flop-shove the turn or call the flop and c/r the turn AI?
  5. #5
    best play here is too call and C/R any turn (apart from an A where I think C/C might be better as you dont want to make him give up a bluff when you have showdown value) as you have more fold equity because most people wait to the turn to get their money in plus it will liekly be a scare card for him.
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    I think calling the flop and crai turn > shove flop
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  7. #7
    However on this board wouldn't you 3bet AI the flop if you actually had a real hand as the flop is somewhat coordinted and sooooted.
  8. #8
    i like to play aggro here...either a 3bet to like 170 and push most turns if called, or call and cr the turn.
  9. #9
    At lower stakes games I just shove and flip (although lots of times you have villain drawing to 6 outs with lower )

    My favourite line in more aggro, hand-reading games is to call flop and :

    -if villain bets big on turn, CRai
    -if villain bets small on turn, CR enough to set up river push on any card
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    I 3-bet to ~165, he shoved, I called.

    Re: call + c/r: someone address bigspenda's 2nd post "wouldn't we 3bet this drawy flop with our huge hands and try to get it in" please.

    Thanks.
  11. #11
    i feel like it would be weird to threebet here with an overpair or a set in a BvB pot so id c/r ai.
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