C-bets

Everyone and their grandmother c-bets when they raise in posistion pre-flop. It's getting standard now to call C-bets regardless. So what are some tips for playing the turn with AJ, let's say, with a dead turn after a called C-bet. Do you call a bet here or fold. If they check, I generally check no matter if I have a hand or not, unless I'm trying to get rid of a fish. What about a large river bet after a check on the turn, if you still don't have a piece? Just looking for POVs. Thanks guys.

Repeat that again?

I take this as a call-down line w AK unimproved vs maniacs sometimes. I haven't been doing it forever, but I mainly tend to do it when I'm preflop raiser but don't want to get bet off my hand after raising preflop by c-betting.

The situation you described needs a very strong read to call. I've done it/seen it done successfully before. It helps when there are draws on the flop that missed the turn and river though.

Your going to need to get more specific as the best answer is it depends. Most of the time, if you get your c-bet called your going to give up. If someone calls your c-bets everytime, you may want to consider to stop c-betting missed flops. It just depends on your reads.

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Your going to need to get more specific as the best answer is it depends. Most of the time, if you get your c-bet called your going to give up. If someone calls your c-bets everytime, you may want to consider to stop c-betting missed flops. It just depends on your reads.

Or start shooting second bullets against these guys.

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Most of the time, if you get your c-bet called your going to give up. It just depends on your reads.

A c-bet is basically a bluff on a missed flop. If your c-bet gets called, they think your bluff is bullshit; gg, nice try. You should give up the hand, regardless of whether you think your opponent is FoS (UNLESS YOU HAVE A VERY VERY VERY STRONG READ). Just because your opponent holds air doesn't mean you can make chicken salad out of your own chicken shit.

On a side note, the point is to make your c-bets profitable in the long run. It doesn't matter if most of your c-bets get called. Say you get called half of the time. You need to be betting anything less than a PSB to make your c-bet profitable. Say they call you 60% of the time. You need to be making c-bets less than 2/3 of the pot to make it profitable in the long run.

Also, you shouldn't be making many c-bets against more than one opponent. If you are only against one opponent that isn't a calling station, you should be c-betting almost every time if you are the PFR. If you are against two opponents, you should only c-bet in position if there are no likely draws on the board. For example, if you hold AK and the board is 963 rainbow, you can safely c-bet if it gets checked to you. If it's something like 987 suited, obv don't c-bet. I rarely if not never c-bet against more than two opponents...it's a very bad idea.

Finally, I like to c-bet from any position if there is a lone A on the board on an otherwise dry board. If the flop is A74 rainbow, I'll bet from any position against two opponents, but not if it's AKJ rainbow. This may be a leak, but it seems to be working for me right now.