i guess i am being a dumbass here, and only thinking in terms of black/white, but i do see the longer term point. maybe "value" as a poker term is used incorrectly here, by me. but i think the raise on the river has...merit.

i am just confused as to why we only call the river? if we feel we are ahead, why not raise it up? if villain folds, who cares? we get the $25. if he calls, we maximize this hand.

if we just call, and think we are ahead, we only capture the $25 we called, and miss an opportunity to TRY for more, dont we?

i understand we may be wrong here. we may be beat, but wasnt the point of the post to extract as much as possible from a "bad aggro donk?" inwhich case, do we worry when he hits his Aces up on the river? no, we cant tell the difference when he hits or has Ax anyway. we take our chances and try to get as much as we can...when we can...within reason. and i think this hand, as played, is within reason.