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    Default Can someone 'splain to me this "click it back" thi

    I've been seeing the term a lot and seen a few hand histories - I just want to hear the theory that goes into it. Thanks.
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    ask gabe. its kind of his thing
    do the right thing.
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    Gabe coined it. It's when you min 3-bet someone that raises you on the flop, you simply hit the raise button right after they raise. Now all his fan boys on 2p2 are loving it.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos
    Gabe coined it. It's when you min 3-bet someone that raises you on the flop, you simply hit the raise button right after they raise.
    That I get, but to what end? Regain control of the hand? Get more money in with a made hand vs. a bad player? Ease stress on the hand muscles that would type in a real raise or work the slider bar? None/all of the above?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalecooper
    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos
    Gabe coined it. It's when you min 3-bet someone that raises you on the flop, you simply hit the raise button right after they raise.
    That I get, but to what end? Regain control of the hand? Get more money in with a made hand vs. a bad player? Ease stress on the hand muscles that would type in a real raise or work the slider bar? None/all of the above?
    It's just to fuck with people. Sometimes to get them to fold, sometimes to get them to stack off stupid. Don't ask how to do one and not the other. I am not balla enough to master this play.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    I'm sure Gabe can obviously explain this the best, but I think this hand is a decent hand where I clicked it back on flop.

    Villain was playing pretty aggressively and spewy. I decided after his flop raise that I was willing to stack off on this board. So my options were to 3bet it big (he might fold better hands I'm flipping with, but potentially may fold draws) or I can click it back and induce shoves from all hands I'm flipping with and from all draws that I'm dominating.

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $2/$5
    6 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    Hero: $1327.50
    UTG+1: $507.40
    CO: $350.90
    Button: $493.20
    SB: $502
    BB: $1112.20

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with
    Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($37, 2 players)
    Hero bets $24, Button raises to $75, Hero raises to $150, Button raises all-in $478.2, Hero calls.

    Turn: ($993.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $993.4)


    River: ($993.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $993.4)


    Results:
    Final pot: $993.4
    Button shows
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    So basically it's has nothing to do with play strategy, but just a way of fucking with, having fun, and metagaming maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    So basically it's has nothing to do with play strategy, but just a way of fucking with, having fun, and metagaming maybe.
    I think it can definitely be strategic. Realizing that you're playing with an aggressive player, and realizing that clicking it back will give them the appearance of fold equity and so it could potentially induce them to get it in with worse hands.
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    i think gabe is obligated to right us a post on clicking it back. plzzz gabe?
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    I was watching a Cardrunners video this morning (I think it was peachykeen) and he was analysing a hand he was not involved in and it seemed that a certain player didn't react properly to a min-reraise on the flop and played the turn and river passively and lost to the flopped nuts. I think this can certainly work against players who you have history with and play by the book.
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    you can click it back in spots where

    1. Opps range has no draws in it but rather made hands and air.
    2. in spots to give the appearance that opp can shove over and have FE when he really can't.
    3. Idk a lot of others.

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    when someone s been checkraising you quite a bit, does it yet again, and you're comfortable felting, clicking it back is a great way to rep "playing back at him playing back" and to get them to shove drawing badly.

    edit : cuz calling fllop and shoving the turn looks way stronger
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    times when clicking it back has been most effective for me are the times when they fold...
    you guys are talking about clicking it back to set up a push call. but clicking it back can be used in certain situations to bluff an aggressive player. in these types of situations a min3bet can appear to represent a strong hand, or at least one that beats your opponent. its all about leveling people and shit. idk
    do the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-rabbit
    times when clicking it back has been most effective for me are the times when they fold...
    you guys are talking about clicking it back to set up a push call. but clicking it back can be used in certain situations to bluff an aggressive player. in these types of situations a min3bet can appear to represent a strong hand, or at least one that beats your opponent. its all about leveling people and shit. idk
    I think whether or not you are trying to get them to fold or to shove worse depends a lot on the board.

    If the board is draw heavy then it is much more likely they were raising your bet with a draw in the first place and highly unlikely they will fold a draw to the minraise. Its more likely that an aggro player would see "fold equity" and push over the draw.

    If its a dry board like J72 rainbow and they are raising you, then they are trying to rep a set or something so I think in this spot CiB would rep a strong overpair and possibly fold out their crap.
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    - elinhu sitting in seat 1 with €258.50 [Dealer]
    - Master_G sitting in seat 2 with €186.33
    - DVk0Infinity sitting in seat 4 with €590.48
    - phantom_lord sitting in seat 5 with €280.15
    - German_Beast sitting in seat 6 with €220.00

    Master_G posted the small blind - €1.00
    DVk0Infinity posted the big blind - €2.00
    ** Dealing card to phantom_lord: Ace of Hearts, 8 of Hearts
    phantom_lord raised - €8.00
    German_Beast folded
    elinhu folded
    Master_G called - €8.00
    DVk0Infinity folded

    ** Dealing the flop: 9 of Spades, 9 of Hearts, 10 of Hearts
    Master_G checked
    phantom_lord bet - €14.00
    Master_G raised - €30.00
    phantom_lord raised - €46.00
    Master_G folded
    phantom_lord mucks:
    phantom_lord wins €91.00 from the main pot
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    imo its good b/c it accomplishes at least 3 things

    1) cheapest bluff possible
    2) induces shoves when u have monstars
    3) allows u to take control of the hand

    and the disadvantage being u allow ppl to draw out on u cheaply
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    most of what everybody said i think is good. ive been doing this for like a year, in particular in 3bet pots. depending on villains perception of how you play, and the particular board, ive used it as a bluff tactic and a tactic to induce a jam. if u understand how villain thinks you think this can be a really powerful weapon.
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    Isn't it supposed to be insta?
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    aejones said it was supposed to be but thats not necessary. the timebank then cib is kinda hilarious. he also referred to it as the gp theorem in his video, but theres no theory really, its just a sweet move.
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    here are my random thoughts.

    -alot of TAGs can c/r bluff you, but only a select few can make a pure air 4 bet bluff. clicking it back can stop them from check raise bluffing you when you are cbetting.

    -the opposite is true for the really tough tricky players. alot of times they can 4 bet bluff and its great to click it back with strongish mediocre hands like TP2k or whatever, because they can guess that you would never do that with a very strong hand. then they shove and u call and its funny.

    -its a great way to raise for info. once everyone starts progressing in their poker level everyone starts realizing how bad this is. but once you get on a higher level, it starts to make sense again.

    if raising for info gives you a piece of info that prevents you from making a huge -ev mistake later on in the hand by sacrificing a relateively small bit of ev up front, then raising for info cant be THAT bad.

    -it can buy you free cards, just like in limit. its great for when you don't really want to commit your stack with a draw but dont want to lose initiative because you dont want to be bluffed off the hand.

    -its a great way to build pots early on vs fish without really scaring them off.


    to use it though u have to know about who you are playing against. this means you have to know how they play and what they think of how you play. its all about hand ranges, after all
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    RIMKUS: posts small blind $2
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    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to nutsinho [Ks Ts]
    nutsinho: raises $12 to $16
    Pusi12: folds
    gtp9998: calls $16
    RIMKUS: folds
    Huge Gloves: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9s Qd 4c]
    nutsinho: bets $24
    gtp9998: raises $48 to $72
    nutsinho: raises $48 to $120
    gtp9998: folds
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    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Button ($29.33)
    SB ($52.20)
    Hero ($49.25)
    UTG ($62.11)
    MP ($63.55)
    CO ($61.29)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
    UTG raises to $2.5, 4 folds, Hero calls $2.

    Flop: ($5.25) 8, 8, 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $16, UTG calls $62.11 (All-In), Hero calls $48.75 (All-In).

    Turn: ($134.75) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($134.75) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $134.75

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Jh Js (two pair, jacks and eights).
    UTG has Ts Td (two pair, tens and eights).
    Outcome: Hero wins $134.75. UTG wins $5.36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Button ($29.33)
    SB ($52.20)
    Hero ($49.25)
    UTG ($62.11)
    MP ($63.55)
    CO ($61.29)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
    UTG raises to $2.5, 4 folds, Hero calls $2.

    Flop: ($5.25) 8, 8, 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $16, UTG calls $62.11 (All-In), Hero calls $48.75 (All-In).

    Turn: ($134.75) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($134.75) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $134.75

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Jh Js (two pair, jacks and eights).
    UTG has Ts Td (two pair, tens and eights).
    Outcome: Hero wins $134.75. UTG wins $5.36.
    villain probably stacks off anyway here w/ TT, but he may pull this w/ 66/77 after you cib.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    [ ] griffey and warpe actually clicked it back
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    lol, no flies on u

    same principle tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    here are my random thoughts.

    -alot of TAGs can c/r bluff you, but only a select few can make a pure air 4 bet bluff. clicking it back can stop them from check raise bluffing you when you are cbetting.

    -the opposite is true for the really tough tricky players. alot of times they can 4 bet bluff and its great to click it back with strongish mediocre hands like TP2k or whatever, because they can guess that you would never do that with a very strong hand. then they shove and u call and its funny.

    -its a great way to raise for info. once everyone starts progressing in their poker level everyone starts realizing how bad this is. but once you get on a higher level, it starts to make sense again.

    if raising for info gives you a piece of info that prevents you from making a huge -ev mistake later on in the hand by sacrificing a relateively small bit of ev up front, then raising for info cant be THAT bad.

    -it can buy you free cards, just like in limit. its great for when you don't really want to commit your stack with a draw but dont want to lose initiative because you dont want to be bluffed off the hand.

    -its a great way to build pots early on vs fish without really scaring them off.


    to use it though u have to know about who you are playing against. this means you have to know how they play and what they think of how you play. its all about hand ranges, after all
    gabe's such a nice guy
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    villain thinks a little

    me TJQK

    raise from CO, SB calls

    flop Q22
    check, I cbet pot, almost insta min-raise, so I cib, snap fold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    lol, no flies on u

    same principle tho
    because you put in a third bet that wasnt all in? what a newfangled idea
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    good or no good? im running 32/27 at this table and 28/24 at another table with the same villain. Hes prett aggro and i think he shoves AQ/KQ here. i dont think he raises a set on such a dry board.

    POKERSTARS GAME #15767152636: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/03/05 - 19:23:36 (ET)
    Table 'Philagoria II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Bode-ist ($87 in chips)
    Seat 2: viciousxp ($69.05 in chips)
    Seat 3: kAy86 ($50 in chips)
    Seat 4: liachtl ($15.85 in chips)
    Seat 5: DJAM88 ($44.15 in chips)
    Seat 6: KAKA1 ($34.20 in chips)
    liachtl: posts small blind $0.25
    DJAM88: posts big blind $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Bode-ist [As Ad]
    KAKA1: folds
    Bode-ist: raises $1.50 to $2
    viciousxp: calls $2
    kAy86: folds
    liachtl: folds
    DJAM88: calls $1.50
    *** FLOP *** [7s Qd 8c]
    DJAM88: checks
    Bode-ist: bets $4.25
    viciousxp: raises $8.75 to $13
    DJAM88: folds
    Bode-ist: raises $8.75 to $21.75
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    can someone explain IIRC? i think i knew at one point in time, and remember it being really ghey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    [ ] griffey and warpe actually clicked it back
    haha true enough! damnnn.. I give bad CiB examples.. that aren't even clicking it back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by will641
    can someone explain IIRC? i think i knew at one point in time, and remember it being really ghey.
    if i recall correctly. and yes, it is one of the worst acronyms out there.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    good or no good? im running 32/27 at this table and 28/24 at another table with the same villain. Hes prett aggro and i think he shoves AQ/KQ here. i dont think he raises a set on such a dry board.
    I'm new to this concept but that looks beautiful to me. Take a little jab at him and hopefully he'll go over your head with a worse hand. At the very least you know he's probably calling you.
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    Example of when it's not a good idea:

    Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
    LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

    MP1: $100
    MP2: $25.35
    CO: $100
    Hero (BTN): $101.70
    SB: $126.35
    BB: $20
    UTG: $84.15
    UTG+1: $109.65

    CO posts $1
    Pre-Flop: 9 9 dealt to Hero (BTN)
    2 folds, MP1 raises to $4.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.50, SB calls $4, BB folds

    Flop: ($15.50) T 9 3 (3 Players)
    SB checks, MP1 bets $12, Hero raises to $24, SB folds, MP1 calls $12

    Turn: ($63.50) J (2 Players)
    MP1 bets $71.50 and is All-In, Hero calls $71.50

    River: ($206.50) J (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

    Results: $206.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
    MP1 showed A Q (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$100 NET)
    Hero showed 9 9 (a full house, Nines full of Jacks) and WON $203.50 (+$103.50 NET)
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    [ ] clicked it back
  38. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by EzDuzIt
    [X] clicked it back
    cyp
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    no...? he didnt even have a chance to click it back.
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    warpe you havent clicked it back yet.

    oh, and in my hand above villain shipped it in w/ KQ
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    I've been minraising minraises for a long time. It's a bit similar move (and it's actually CiB compatible).

    This bastard clicked it back to me three times on the flop yesterday:

    Seat 3: BB ($282.40 in chips)
    Seat 8: HERO [ 3H,4H ] ($142.50 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    HERO posts blind ($0.50), BB posts blind ($1).

    PRE-FLOP
    HERO bets $3, BB calls $2.50.

    FLOP [board cards 7D,6D,8H ]
    BB bets $1, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $25, BB folds.

    Owned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours
    I've been minraising minraises for a long time. It's a bit similar move (and it's actually CiB compatible).

    This bastard clicked it back to me three times on the flop yesterday:

    Seat 3: BB ($282.40 in chips)
    Seat 8: HERO [ 3H,4H ] ($142.50 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    HERO posts blind ($0.50), BB posts blind ($1).

    PRE-FLOP
    HERO bets $3, BB calls $2.50.

    FLOP [board cards 7D,6D,8H ]
    BB bets $1, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $25, BB folds.

    Owned.
    This is just ridiculous... lol

    what could he POSSIBLY have had?? weird
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    looks to me like the race for HH of the year is pretty much over
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours
    I've been minraising minraises for a long time. It's a bit similar move (and it's actually CiB compatible).

    This bastard clicked it back to me three times on the flop yesterday:

    Seat 3: BB ($282.40 in chips)
    Seat 8: HERO [ 3H,4H ] ($142.50 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    HERO posts blind ($0.50), BB posts blind ($1).

    PRE-FLOP
    HERO bets $3, BB calls $2.50.

    FLOP [board cards 7D,6D,8H ]
    BB bets $1, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $2, BB bets $2, HERO bets $25, BB folds.

    Owned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    That's a pretty sick call.
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    lol and wtf at the two hands above.

    Here's a double click it back from myself. I'm not really sure if this is proper application, or better than other moves. But it was at least fun! I felt like the rundown the clock shove on the turn was definitely the best move after the flop.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (4 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($104.70)
    Hero ($112)
    BB ($37)
    UTG ($261.95)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 9.
    2 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, BB calls $2.

    Flop: ($6.50) 9, Q, 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $4, BB raises to $8, Hero raises to $16, BB calls $4.

    Turn: ($34.50) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $22, BB calls $22 (All-In).

    River: ($0) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $78.50

    (opp has QT)
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    [ ]clicked it back
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Damn, I was so excited to click it back and then I actually didn't do it right...
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    he clicked it back

    Table "Locke" Seat 5 is the button.
    Seat 1: leraner ($121.05 in chips)
    Seat 2: secadero ($210 in chips)
    Seat 3: nazgull99 ($212.55 in chips)
    Seat 4: HERO ($217.60 in chips)
    Seat 5: Daigle ($194 in chips)
    Seat 6: gedden ($61 in chips)
    gedden: posts small blind $1
    leraner: posts big blind $2
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to HERO
    secadero: folds
    nazgull99: raises to $6
    HERO: calls $6
    Daigle: folds
    gedden: folds
    leraner: folds
    ----- FLOP -----
    nazgull99: bets $6
    HERO: raises to $21
    nazgull99: raises to $36
    HERO: raises to $211.60 and is all-in
    nazgull99: is all-in $162.55
    Returned uncalled bets $5.05 to HERO
    ----- TURN -----
    ----- RIVER -----
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    HERO: shows (Two Pairs, Eights and Fours, King high)
    nazgull99: shows (A Full House, Eights full of Fours)
    nazgull99 collected $425.10 from Main pot
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    HERO: shows (Two Pairs, Eights and Fours, King high)
    nazgull99: shows (A Full House, Eights full of Fours)
    nazgull99 collected $425.10 from Main pot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    he clicked it back

    Table "Locke" Seat 5 is the button.
    Seat 1: leraner ($121.05 in chips)
    Seat 2: secadero ($210 in chips)
    Seat 3: nazgull99 ($212.55 in chips)
    Seat 4: HERO ($217.60 in chips)
    Seat 5: Daigle ($194 in chips)
    Seat 6: gedden ($61 in chips)
    gedden: posts small blind $1
    leraner: posts big blind $2
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to HERO
    secadero: folds
    nazgull99: raises to $6
    HERO: calls $6
    Daigle: folds
    gedden: folds
    leraner: folds
    ----- FLOP -----
    nazgull99: bets $6
    HERO: raises to $21
    nazgull99: raises to $36
    HERO: raises to $211.60 and is all-in
    nazgull99: is all-in $162.55
    Returned uncalled bets $5.05 to HERO
    ----- TURN -----
    ----- RIVER -----
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    HERO: shows (Two Pairs, Eights and Fours, King high)
    nazgull99: shows (A Full House, Eights full of Fours)
    nazgull99 collected $425.10 from Main pot
    i think you were 1 level above villain here
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    he clicked it back

    Table "Locke" Seat 5 is the button.
    Seat 1: leraner ($121.05 in chips)
    Seat 2: secadero ($210 in chips)
    Seat 3: nazgull99 ($212.55 in chips)
    Seat 4: HERO ($217.60 in chips)
    Seat 5: Daigle ($194 in chips)
    Seat 6: gedden ($61 in chips)
    gedden: posts small blind $1
    leraner: posts big blind $2
    ----- HOLE CARDS -----
    dealt to HERO
    secadero: folds
    nazgull99: raises to $6
    HERO: calls $6
    Daigle: folds
    gedden: folds
    leraner: folds
    ----- FLOP -----
    nazgull99: bets $6
    HERO: raises to $21
    nazgull99: raises to $36
    HERO: raises to $211.60 and is all-in
    nazgull99: is all-in $162.55
    Returned uncalled bets $5.05 to HERO
    ----- TURN -----
    ----- RIVER -----
    ----- SHOW DOWN -----
    HERO: shows (Two Pairs, Eights and Fours, King high)
    nazgull99: shows (A Full House, Eights full of Fours)
    nazgull99 collected $425.10 from Main pot
    i think you were 1 level above villain here
    better if he doesnt lead for less than half the pot on the flop. this is ugly
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    hehe there was a special dynamic at the table that made me think he'd be bluff 3-betting me on the flop and I had a hard time believing he wouldn't protect bigger against draws

    pretty ugly though

    i remember talking to somebody about this and saying how it'd be a great play on draw-heavy boards vs aggros with monsters

    i guess I proved myself right?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Is this click it back? I'm a click it back n00b!

    $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
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    Converted at weaktight.com

    Profiles and Stacks:
    UTG ($21.40) 65.5/0.0/0.1 (29)
    UTG+1 ($8.90) 30.8/3.8/1.2 (52)
    Hero ($82.65) 16.7/9.4/1.7 (96)
    BTN ($26.80) 5.2/4.2/5.0 (96)
    SB ($15.90) 34.9/7.0/7.5 (43)
    BB ($13.60) 88.9/66.7/5.5 (9)

    Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO
    UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1

    Flop: ($3.85, 3 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $6, UTG folds, Hero raises to $9, BB raises to $12, Hero raises to $15, BB goes all-in $0.35

    Turn: ($28.55, 2 players)

    River: ($28.55, 2 players)

    Final Pot: $28.55
    BB shows:
    Hero shows:

    Hero wins $29.8 ( won +$13.55 )
    BB lost -$13.60
    UTG lost -$1.25
  57. #57
    lol wow at the last one. some people just go ape shit when you cib.
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    LOL, having some CiB fun...Well its not really CiB, but anyway....

    PokerStars Game #15986030524: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/14 - 23:53:16 (ET)
    Table 'Suevia II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: 1iONU ($22.50 in chips)
    Seat 2: mdx9 ($36.05 in chips)
    Seat 3: Kauffmanj ($21.40 in chips)
    Seat 4: anubanu ($15.80 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fupeg ($10 in chips)
    Seat 6: Poker_Muzz ($31.55 in chips)
    Fupeg: posts small blind $0.10
    Poker_Muzz: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Poker_Muzz [9s Ks]
    1iONU: folds
    mdx9: raises $0.75 to $1
    Kauffmanj: folds
    anubanu: folds
    Fupeg: folds
    Poker_Muzz: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [3s 6d 9h]
    Poker_Muzz: checks
    mdx9: bets $1.75
    Poker_Muzz: raises $1.75 to $3.50
    Fupeg said, "fold"
    mdx9: raises $10.50 to $14
    Fupeg said, "woops"
    Kauffmanj is sitting out
    Poker_Muzz: raises $10.50 to $24.50
    mdx9: raises $10.55 to $35.05 and is all-in
    Fupeg said, "excuse me"
    Fupeg said, "gl"
    Poker_Muzz: calls $6.05 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [3s 6d 9h] [9c]
    *** RIVER *** [3s 6d 9h 9c] [6c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Poker_Muzz: shows [9s Ks] (a full house, Nines full of Sixes)
    mdx9: mucks hand
    Poker_Muzz collected $60.20 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $63.20 | Rake $3
    Board [3s 6d 9h 9c 6c]
    Seat 1: 1iONU folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: mdx9 mucked [Kc Ah]
    Seat 3: Kauffmanj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: anubanu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Fupeg (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: Poker_Muzz (big blind) showed [9s Ks] and won ($60.20) with a full house, Nines full of Sixes
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    he got cibbed
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    first one's good, second one is just spew unless he stacks off with any peice of the board.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    first one's good, second one is just spew unless he stacks off with any peice of the board.
    There was a timing tell when he rerasie me on the flopnd his chat
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    no cibbing but still cool

    Seat 1: Dontherocket ($591 in chips)
    Seat 2: PiS.ToTo ($643.65 in chips)
    Seat 3: drbob2004 ($493.10 in chips)
    Seat 4: Sulzi ($627.30 in chips)
    Seat 5: nutsinho ($1449.35 in chips)
    Seat 6: mets1233 ($594.20 in chips)
    nutsinho: posts small blind $3
    mets1233: posts big blind $6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to nutsinho [Qd Tc]
    Dontherocket: folds
    PiS.ToTo: folds
    drbob2004: folds
    Sulzi: raises $12 to $18
    nutsinho: calls $15
    mets1233: folds
    *** FLOP *** [3s 2h Ad]
    nutsinho: checks
    Sulzi: bets $24
    nutsinho: raises $42 to $66
    Sulzi: raises $54 to $120
    nutsinho: raises $90 to $210
    Sulzi: folds
    nutsinho collected $279 from pot
    nutsinho: shows [Qd Tc] (high card Ace)
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    villain clicked it back on me twice on one street!

    PokerStars Game #16077335202: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/03/18 - 19:16:25 (ET)
    Table 'Werdandi IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: tmickael ($59.50 in chips)
    Seat 2: rikilake ($84.20 in chips)
    Seat 3: Bode-ist ($64.20 in chips)
    Seat 4: epacse ($52.75 in chips)
    Seat 5: ngd1 ($49.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: paljas0021 ($27.30 in chips)
    ngd1: posts small blind $0.25
    paljas0021: posts big blind $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Bode-ist [5s 5h]
    tmickael: raises $1 to $1.50
    rikilake: folds
    Bode-ist: calls $1.50
    epacse: folds
    ngd1: folds
    paljas0021: calls $1
    *** FLOP *** [5d Qh 7d]
    paljas0021: checks
    tmickael: bets $2.50
    Bode-ist: raises $6 to $8.50
    paljas0021: folds
    tmickael: raises $6 to $14.50
    Bode-ist: raises $14.50 to $29
    tmickael: raises $14.50 to $43.50
    Bode-ist: raises $14.50 to $58
    tmickael: calls $14.50 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [5d Qh 7d] [9h]
    *** RIVER *** [5d Qh 7d 9h] [7s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    tmickael: shows [Kh Qc] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
    Bode-ist: shows [5s 5h] (a full house, Fives full of Sevens)
    Bode-ist collected $117.75 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $120.75 | Rake $3
    Board [5d Qh 7d 9h 7s]
    Seat 1: tmickael showed [Kh Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens
    Seat 2: rikilake folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Bode-ist showed [5s 5h] and won ($117.75) with a full house, Fives full of Sevens
    Seat 4: epacse (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: ngd1 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: paljas0021 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    we need to rename this thread "official CiB thread" or something.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
  65. #65
    I clicked it back... and clicked it back... and clicked it back...

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($27.05)
    MP ($23.55)
    CO ($25.40)
    Button ($35.50)
    SB ($35.90)
    Hero ($24)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, T. UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
    MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, UTG (poster) checks.

    Flop: ($0.75) 9, 4, T (4 players)
    Hero bets $0.75, UTG folds, MP calls $0.75.

    Turn: ($2.25) 9 (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, MP raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $1.75, MP raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $2.75, MP raises to $3.25, Hero raises to $3.75, MP raises to $4.25, Hero raises to $4.75, MP raises to $5.25, Hero raises to $5.75, MP calls $0.50.

    River: ($13.75) 2 (3 players)
    Hero bets $9.25, MP raises to $16.8 (All-In), Hero calls $7.55.

    Final Pot: $72.35

    Results in white below:
    SB has (flush, ace high).
    Hero has 9s Ts (full house, nines full of tens).
    MP has 7h Ah (flush, ace high).
    Outcome: Hero wins $72.35.
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    ROCK ON. You just made my day!
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!

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