First of all, I completely agree that my 'questions' are vague.

The concept I don’t get is that small/med PP’s are coinflipping with overcards if we look at all-in equity. So I always assumed when there’s some money in the pot and we take it down with one or another, that’s fine.
But the equity is of all streets. By getting called, villain is only gonna see the flop.

So my conclusion was; if someone is calling with unpaired cards against a pair, he is making a bigger mistake than when he’s folding them, equity wise. Which to me rised the question whether we actually want a fold or a call.
Also turning things around, if we make someone fold a pair against our overcards, that’s far better for us than if he's folding his overcards to our pair.

So in a nutshell, what I am trying to figure out is what I should consider whether/when to 3-bet hands like 99-JJ and AQ.....what's my goal with it?



What more or less triggered this was a comment by P4’s in another thread, combined with some thinking about 3-betting from the blinds.
P4’s comment:
“Against a 25/20 UTG raise I would probably 3-bet/call TT and 99 50/50.
I would probably mostly call with JJ on the BB when villain PFR < 12”

The thing is, at my stakes, 3-bet ranges and even more 4-bet/shoving ranges preflop are that tight, that I can’t really 3-bet/call with 99-JJ or AK, so will usually be 3-bet/folding them.
Also, quite some people call 3-bets with overcards (like AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ) fairly often and generally play a weak fit and fold in 3-bet pots, both with overcards and small/med PP’s.

(I hope that's enough for the “it depends”)

More specific:
99-JJ:
Is taking the preflop ‘thin’ value by making villain mistakenly call my 3-bets with unpaired cards/lower pairs worth enough, when the price is that villain can play perfectly with most of his range preflop and on the flop?

How is the value compared to calling preflop and seeing a flop against a wide range I’m way ahead of, but where I am probably in the dark against on either flop or turn. (although I assume most villains do not 2/3 barrel bluff much)

What is (is there?) the big difference in 3-bet/folding JJ or 22 in the described conditions?


AQ and such:
Is it worth taking the preflop FE+flop initiative, when the price is folding out most of the hands I dominate preflop? (again compared to calling and playing against a wide range postflop)



I more or less ingnored position, initiative, postflop playability, flop shovability etc. in this. Mostly because most of my opponents aren’t check/shoving low flops with AK and such, so the game plays relatively straightforward in 3-bet pots.
I actually think having position or not could be a very important factor in considering whether to call or 3-bet, if it is please elaborate why.