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Correct Fold against a fishy calling station?

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  1. #1

    Default Correct Fold against a fishy calling station?

    The villian plays many hands. Have not seen him raise a whole lot, so his all in made me too suspicious. Figured I would wait for a better spot.

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    GAME #1641332323 - (BLINDS $0.05/$0.10) NO LIMIT TEXAS HOLD'EM - 2006/08/10-13:11:00.6 (CST)
    Table "Malo (5 max)" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 2: shiehmus ($11.55 in chips)
    Seat 3: gussie427 ($9.76 in chips)
    Seat 4: CavemanWins ($15.90 in chips)
    Seat 5: patzer555 ($4.16 in chips)
    patzer555: Post Small Blind ($0.05)
    shiehmus: Post Big Blind ($0.10)
    Dealing...
    Dealt to CavemanWins [ Js ]
    Dealt to CavemanWins [ Ks ]
    gussie427: Call ($0.10)
    CavemanWins: Call ($0.10)
    patzer555: Raise ($0.15)
    shiehmus: Fold
    gussie427: Call ($0.10)
    CavemanWins: Call ($0.10)
    *** FLOP *** : [ 4c 7h Jd ]
    patzer555: Bet ($0.10)
    gussie427: Call ($0.10)
    CavemanWins: Raise ($0.75)
    patzer555: Call ($0.65)
    gussie427: Fold
    *** TURN *** : [ 4c 7h Jd ] [ 9c ]
    patzer555: Check
    CavemanWins: Bet ($1)
    patzer555: Raise ($3.21)
    CavemanWins: Fold
    patzer555: Winner -- doesn't show cards
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Pot: $4.10 | Rake: $0.20
    Board: [ 4c 7h Jd 9c ]
    shiehmus lost $0.10 (folded)
    gussie427 lost $0.30 (folded)
    CavemanWins lost $1.95 (folded) [ Js Ks ] (a pair of jacks)
    patzer555 bet $4.16, collected $6.31, net +$2.15
    -----------------------------------------------------
  2. #2
    I dunno about your fold... you kinda seem pot committed to me since its only another $2.21 to call.

    Its hard to tell what he cud have as a min-raise preflop cud mean nethign at NL10.
    LETS GO CLIPPERS!!
  3. #3
    at my site, 40 buyins is the minimum amount so we can safely say this guy is here to play some short stack poker. shortstacks will go to the felt w/ 2nd pair. against a shortstack TPGK goes way up in value.

    PF: raise if you're going to play the pot. don't limp KJ out of position, it's too hard of a hand to play like that (as is witnessed by this hand). your limp and subsequent call of a minraise result in a multiway bloated pot, which make it even harder to play hands like KJ (somehow).

    Flop: as played, it is good that you raised. the size of the raise is fine (.75 into .80).

    Turn: here you have to consider your opponent's stack size compared to the size of the pot before you act. the pot size on the turn is $2.20 and he has about $3 behind. if he has even 2nd pair weak kicker here he's probably going to go all in looking to double up. if you push him all in he will probably only call with a slightly better range than 2nd pair. a bet like $1 should be made if you think he'll push w/ a slightly worse range of hands (like what he's probably doing now).

    the only thing really to worry about is the PF minraise. if he's calling PF A LOT more than raising and all of a sudden you see a minraise like this (after two limps, no less) that could give you probable cause to put him on a premium hand.

    raise or fold preflop and you won't have to make this tough decision. as played, i probably call his push.
    In answer to your question... it depends...
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  4. #4
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    I like the fold. This looks VERY much like a set or an overpair, and you're only getting 3:1 to call. You don't even have TPTK.

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