Quote Originally Posted by DJJunkPauds
Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
Preflop is fine, a small mistake at worst. Since when did aokrongly and his disciples take over the short-handed forum? It can never be that bad to call a terrible player's 3x raise when you have the button and a decent hand and you're 110 BB deep.
I dunno, in this spot if I'm going to call with a suited ace I want it to be A2s-A5s, and even then I may not bother. With A8s against this guy you need to hit trip 8s when he doesn't have set, or suck one out, but does have TP, or makes 2pr, or you need the flush when he has K9dd+/QTdd+/JTdd, or you need a full house when he has a worse full house, or you need blah blah blah - a whole load of other unlikely scenario's that are far too uncommon to give us the required implied odds (in my estimate, I haven't actually done the math), let alone the times when we have the hand we were speculating on, but wind up loosing anyway. So if we do hit our ace, we bet, he folds, or we get loads of action and get shown a better ace, or a worse ace that hit 2pr, or a set a whole lot of the time.

I don't see the point in something this marginal. Might as well save the rake.
your whole argument implies that we are only going to get payed when he flops the nuts and we flop teh uber nuts. this guy sucks. your argument would make sense if we were playing a 12/8 nit.