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  1. #1
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    Default Crying call?

    Is hand one standard? Do you guys play it any differently? Just seeing how my line looks.

    Hand two is just posted out of frustration. Ugh. I wanted to vomit.

    PokerStars Game #3821768575: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/01/31 - 21:10:41 (ET)
    Table 'Galt III' Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Lukieplaya ($135.55 in chips)
    Seat 2: larryab ($112.95 in chips)
    Seat 3: givmescrill ($18 in chips)
    Seat 4: mitchmoney ($99 in chips)
    Seat 5: MRCASHINO ($67.85 in chips)
    Seat 6: SPoOoDY ($59.20 in chips)
    larryab: posts small blind $0.50
    givmescrill: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Lukieplaya [As Kh]
    mitchmoney: folds
    MRCASHINO: raises $1 to $2
    SPoOoDY: calls $2
    Lukieplaya: calls $2
    larryab: folds
    givmescrill: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ah 4d 4h]
    MRCASHINO: bets $1
    SPoOoDY: calls $1
    Lukieplaya: raises $6 to $7
    MRCASHINO: calls $6
    SPoOoDY: calls $6
    *** TURN *** [Ah 4d 4h] [Js]
    MRCASHINO: checks
    SPoOoDY: checks
    Lukieplaya: bets $15
    MRCASHINO: calls $15
    SPoOoDY: folds
    *** RIVER *** [Ah 4d 4h Js] [Kc]
    MRCASHINO: bets $43.85 and is all-in
    Lukieplaya: calls $43.85
    *** SHOW DOWN ***


    What a donk. Enough said...

    PokerStars Game #3821801483: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/01/31 - 21:13:16 (ET)
    Table 'Circe IV' Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: occssw ($115.70 in chips)
    Seat 2: Olsie ($75.40 in chips)
    Seat 3: BOOKSR ($12 in chips)
    Seat 4: Dornie ($22.30 in chips)
    Seat 5: Lukieplaya ($136.20 in chips)
    Seat 6: mleonida ($23.60 in chips)
    Olsie: posts small blind $0.50
    BOOKSR: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Lukieplaya [Ah Ad]
    Olsie said, "gf"
    occssw said, "no kicker"
    Dornie: folds
    Lukieplaya: raises $3 to $4
    Olsie said, "AQ"
    mleonida: folds
    occssw: calls $4
    Olsie said, "no heart"
    Olsie: folds
    BOOKSR: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4h 3s Jh]
    Lukieplaya: bets $6
    occssw said, "here either"
    occssw: calls $6
    *** TURN *** [4h 3s Jh] [9s]
    Lukieplaya: bets $15
    occssw: calls $15
    *** RIVER *** [4h 3s Jh 9s] [5s]
    Lukieplaya: checks
    occssw: bets $20.70
    Lukieplaya: calls $20.70
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    occssw: shows [5d 5c] (three of a kind, Fives)
    Lukieplaya: mucks hand
    Lukieplaya said, "wow"
    occssw collected $89.90 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $92.90 | Rake $3
    Board [4h 3s Jh 9s 5s]
    Seat 1: occssw (button) showed [5d 5c] and won ($89.90) with three of a kind, Fives
    Seat 2: Olsie (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: BOOKSR (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Dornie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Lukieplaya mucked [Ah Ad]
    Seat 6: mleonida folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. #2
    Hand 1 I'm definitely reraising preflop. Doesn't need to be huge. Something like $8 would work well. As played I think I like checking behind on the turn. And I think you need a good read to call that river push.

    Hand 2 is goot. What did you put villian on? I think I'm value-betting here almost everytime. Something like 1/2 should be good. If you get raised then you can toss your hand easily. (I can't believe he called you down w/55 LOL)
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    Busted flush in hand 1? Played fine - easy river call.

    Hand 2, I think you need to bet higher on each street because suits and connectors. I guess he wasn't folding regardless though.
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    hand1 nice
    hand 2.
    check raise?
    especially if opp is aggro or a bit dumb. I might push or really badly overbet the turn if i think opp has anypart of it and thinks im on bluff.
    We all hate that river
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    hand 1: i'm ahead of everything on the flop except the 1 combination of AA, the 1 combination of 44, and some stupid 4x hand. Normally I slow down with TPTK when 2 players call a flop bet, but in this instance i'm almost always best so I fired again on the turn. Don't want someone rivering that flush.

    I probably should reraise this preflop 6-max though with only a min-raise in front. (sorry, random)

    River was a toughie. I had been showing strength on the flop and turn, so this bet was quite a surprise. First reaction was some random 4 or a busted flush draw, but after I went through his range, I decided that this call was +EV. AA (even 44) would make sense, but very unlikely mathematically. I'm good here 1 outta 3 times I'd like to believe. Villain flipped AA.

    Hand 2 is goot. What did you put villian on? I think I'm value-betting here almost everytime. Something like 1/2 should be good. If you get raised then you can toss your hand easily. (I can't believe he called you down w/55 LOL)
    Based on the little I had seen, villain was splashing around in a lot of pots. He liked to call. I was thinking flush draw which would give him a chance to bluff at the pot, but I'm not winning another bet on the end if I fire a third barrell if thats the case. He could also be slowplaying something like a set waiting to river-screw me here, and by checking I avoid facing a large 2-bet on this river. Of course, he could have something stupid like QJ where he almost invariably checks behind and I'd be kicking myself...
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukie
    Based on the little I had seen, villain was splashing around in a lot of pots. He liked to call. I was thinking flush draw which would give him a chance to bluff at the pot, but I'm not winning another bet on the end if I fire a third barrell if thats the case. He could also be slowplaying something like a set waiting to river-screw me here, and by checking I avoid facing a large 2-bet on this river. Of course, he could have something stupid like QJ where he almost invariably checks behind and I'd be kicking myself...
    Yeah, I think your thought process is good. I guess I was just being a little results oriented. I saw him call you down with 55 and assumed he was a typical calling station 6-max fish that has the "he must have AK" syndrome. But I like the river check to induce a bluff.

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