Dealing with a floater

I played about 200 hands with this guy tonight. He was a 45/8 guy and was floating me to death, both in and out of position. If I showed *any* sign of weakness he pounced on me. Having some experience with NL100, I can say that I've not come across too many of these types of players at this level. Anyway, after realizing what he was doing I tightened up and waited to drop the hammer on him with TPTK or an over-pair.

Is this how you're supposed to deal with these types of players?......and is this just super-duper bad luck? Anyone find any fault with my plays/reasoning here?



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($139.22)
BB ($310.79)
UTG ($95)
MP ($87.18)
CO ($66.10)
Button ($227.07)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K. Hero posts a blind of $0.50. MP posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP (poster) raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $11.5, 1 fold, MP calls $9.

Flop: ($25) Q, 5, A (2 players)
Hero bets $15, MP calls $15.

Turn: ($55) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $35, Hero raises to $70, MP calls $25.18 (All-In).

River: ($185.18) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $185.18

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac Kd (two pair, aces and queens).
MP has 5h 5c (full house, fives full of queens).
Outcome: MP wins $175.36. Hero wins $9.81.



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($98.50)
UTG ($24.45)
MP ($100)
Button ($31.75)
SB ($144.57)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A. MP posts a blind of $1. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $5, MP calls $5, SB folds.

Flop: ($13) 4, 9, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $9.5, MP calls $9.50.

Turn: ($32) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $15, Hero raises to $45, MP calls $30.

River: ($122) 6 (2 players)
Hero calls $38 (All-In), MP calls $38.

Final Pot: $198

Results in white below:
Hero has Kh Ad (one pair, kings).
MP has 4c 4h (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: MP wins $198.



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($114.30)
SB ($50.63)
BB ($99)
UTG ($191.32)
MP ($201.12)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, UTG calls $10.

Flop: ($29.50) 7, 9, 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $23, UTG calls $23.

Turn: ($75.50) T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero calls $77.30 (All-In), UTG calls $77.30.

River: ($230.10) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $230.10

Results in white below:
UTG has Td Th (full house, tens full of nines).
Hero has Jh Js (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: UTG wins $230.10.


I....got....owned.

One thing to consider is that he really is just hitting a lot of hands and not nessicarilly "floating." I've gotten into trouble assuming that somebody is bluffing a lot when they've actually just been a card rack for the past hour.

If you have good reason and evidence to believe he floats a lot, then these all look pretty standard except the last hand, I am not a big fan of the turn shove unless you really think he would call with worse, the flop didn't even contain a flush draw and the turn was pretty shitty because it completed a few two pair / straight combos as well as now losing to TT. I would've checked the turn and probably folded to any substantial river bet.

Originally Posted by aislephive

I've gotten into trouble assuming that somebody is bluffing a lot when they've actually just been a card rack for the past hour.

...and I've gotten into even more trouble when I've robbed someone blind for 3 hands, then assumed they picked a spot to play back at me light.