Quote Originally Posted by zenbitz
How likely is it that good player behind us will actually get spooked by our flat call in the middle. He must know that we should try to raise him out... so if we don't - might he think we are s/p the nutz? Not going to work if he has the Ad, obv. And I am assuming he's capable of thinking 4 levels if iwind says he's a good player 10-10-20 (sounds like a collect calling line)
They way I see it, if you are going to put in another $1500 or so, you ought to at least try to make Button define his hand. If not, if Button raises the flop or if MP3 fires out another bet on a diamond turn, you are in a much tougher spot with an even bigger pot.

If Button calls my flop raise, I'm going to discount my diamond outs deeply and pretty much play for the straight. I'm much happier paying off a flopped flush with a straight than the Ad/Kd with the Qd here.

There really isn't much value in having AA/KK with no diamond along for the ride. Losing the flop bet from Button calling with these hands is partially made up for by gaining equity versus MP3's middle/bottom pairs and weak draws. If another diamong hits, then AA/KK with no diamond isn't going to pay off, and might not even if you hit your straight (well, KK might).