The DIE SHORTSTACK RATHOLERS thread:

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Feel free to post all hands where you own a shortstacker, who i know we all hate.

Here's the only one i can find right now. Preferably, the short stacker should be closer to a 30% stack or under.
POKERSTARS GAME #8655086449: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/02/27 - 16:23:03 (ET)
Table 'Goberta V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: shriiimpy ($81.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Spare14 ($121.70 in chips)
Seat 3: dobo1 ($56.65 in chips)
Seat 4: ZeroMercy ($34.30 in chips)
Seat 5: IMSUPERCREAL ($105.95 in chips)
Seat 6: robovic ($55.85 in chips)
ZeroMercy: posts small blind $0.50
IMSUPERCREAL: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IMSUPERCREAL [5d 5h]
robovic: folds
shriiimpy: folds
Spare14: folds
dobo1: raises $3 to $4
ZeroMercy: folds
IMSUPERCREAL: raises $10 to $14
dobo1: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [9d 2c 5s]
IMSUPERCREAL: checks
dobo1: bets $13
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $13
*** TURN *** [9d 2c 5s] [Kc]
IMSUPERCREAL: checks
dobo1: bets $29.65 and is all-in
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $29.65
*** RIVER *** [9d 2c 5s Kc] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IMSUPERCREAL: shows [5d 5h] (three of a kind, Fives)
dobo1: mucks hand
IMSUPERCREAL collected $110.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $113.80 | Rake $3
Board [9d 2c 5s Kc Js]
Seat 1: shriiimpy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Spare14 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dobo1 (button) mucked [As Qh]
Seat 4: ZeroMercy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: IMSUPERCREAL (big blind) showed [5d 5h] and won ($110.80) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 6: robovic folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Fnord]

The Short Stacks!

[jackvance]

I think the "shortstack ratholer" refers more to <20BB buyin people.. a 55BB guy can't really freeze up a table by shoving over raises constantly or whatever..

[NLHE lahooozaher]

I think the "shortstack ratholer" refers more to <20BB buyin people.. a 55BB guy can't really freeze up a table by shoving over raises constantly or whatever..

Also to rathole, they have to win. I failed to see this in your example Massimo.

[Genitruc]

I'm with Fnord. I figure somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of my winrate comes from shorties.



Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Boogieman661 ( $74.84 )
Seat 2: idleig ( $200.80 )
Seat 3: veal23 ( $179.82 )
Seat 5: qhuang58 ( $306.60 )
Seat 6: virompl ( $291.20 )
Seat 4: HERO ( $313.80 )
Boogieman661 posts small blind [$1].
idleig posts big blind [$2].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ As 8s ]
veal23 folds.
HERO raises [$7]
qhuang58 folds.
virompl folds.
Boogieman661 calls [$6]
idleig folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 7d, 4c ]
Boogieman661 checks.
HERO checks.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
Boogieman661 bets [$14]
HERO calls [$14]

** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
Boogieman661 is all-In.
HERO calls [$53.84]
Boogieman661 shows [ Qd, Jh ]two pairs, Sevens and Fours.
HERO shows [ As, 8s ]two pairs, Sevens and Fours.
HERO wins $148.68 from the main pot with two pairs, Sevens and Fours with Ace kicker.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I just couldn't find a good HH.

So yes, lets make it 1/3 stack or below.

POKERSTARS GAME #8628385054: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/02/25 - 22:51:11 (ET)
Table 'Peraga II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: IMSUPERCREAL ($167.65 in chips)
Seat 2: tuition$ ($61.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Chillviper ($88.95 in chips)
Seat 4: jdubya34 ($19.50 in chips)
Seat 5: field72 ($34.30 in chips)
IMSUPERCREAL: posts small blind $0.50
tuition$: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IMSUPERCREAL [Kh Ah]
Chillviper: raises $2 to $3
jdubya34: raises $16.50 to $19.50 and is all-in
field72: folds
IMSUPERCREAL: raises $148.15 to $167.65 and is all-in
tuition$: folds
Chillviper: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s 9d Tc]
*** TURN *** [8s 9d Tc] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [8s 9d Tc Qs] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IMSUPERCREAL: shows [Kh Ah] (high card Ace)
jdubya34: mucks hand
IMSUPERCREAL collected $41 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $43 | Rake $2
Board [8s 9d Tc Qs 4h]
Seat 1: IMSUPERCREAL (small blind) showed [Kh Ah] and won ($41) with high card Ace
Seat 2: tuition$ (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Chillviper folded before Flop
Seat 4: jdubya34 mucked [As 5s]
Seat 5: field72 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[drmcboy]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/profit

[ilikeaces86]

If they were real ratholers they would always be all in preflop.

[euphoricism]

Shitty Shortstacker != Rad Ratholer

[Numbr2intheWorld]

If they were real ratholers they would always be all in preflop.

quiet you ratholer.

[mrhappy333]

I played shortie for January and february, and I have to say it was fun and profitable. It was how I cleared my bonus at poker stars 10nl. I'll post my strategy guide soon.

[Genitruc]

vnh drmcboy

[jackvance]

I can understand shortstacking 25/50, but 10NL?...

[bode]

The Short Stacks!

I'm with Fnord. I figure somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of my winrate comes from shorties.

QFT & QFT. I bet atleast 1/3 of my profit comes from shorties. It would be interesting if there is any way to figure that out through PT.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

PokerStars Game #8663690834: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/02/28 - 01:50:58 (ET)
Table 'Shaula II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: caramelito1 ($18.40 in chips)
Seat 2: IMSUPERCREAL ($93 in chips)
Seat 3: Scansion ($105.60 in chips)
Seat 4: star_jai** ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 5: ratoneBR ($222.40 in chips)
Seat 6: plourw ($91.60 in chips)
caramelito1: posts small blind $0.50
IMSUPERCREAL: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IMSUPERCREAL [Qc Jd]
Scansion: folds
star_jai**: folds
ratoneBR: folds
plourw: folds
caramelito1: calls $0.50
IMSUPERCREAL: raises $4 to $5
caramelito1: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [4c Td 2h]
caramelito1: bets $13.40 and is all-in
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $13.40
*** TURN *** [4c Td 2h] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [4c Td 2h 4s] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
caramelito1: shows [8d Jh] (a pair of Fours)
IMSUPERCREAL: shows [Qc Jd] (a pair of Fours - King+Queen kicker)
IMSUPERCREAL collected $35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $36.80 | Rake $1.80
Board [4c Td 2h 4s Ks]
Seat 1: caramelito1 (small blind) showed [8d Jh] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 2: IMSUPERCREAL (big blind) showed [Qc Jd] and won ($35) with a pair of Fours
Seat 3: Scansion folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: star_jai** folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ratoneBR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: plourw (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)