Discussion of aces Super Monday win

Wow...I was wondering what was up with this thread. That's pretty impressive.

Originally Posted by hagakure

Wow...I was wondering what was up with this thread. That's pretty impressive.

iwasakib: FTR > 2+2

That was hilarious.

Yo aces, what's this about? This might be the most passive play I've ever seen you post, particularly given your cards.

#Game No : 1952648395
***** Hand History for Game 1952648395 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Monday, April 25, 21:24:11 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: NotChad01 ( $1825 )
Seat 2: Kozzo ( $1840 )
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $940 )
Seat 4: odell_1120 ( $855 )
Seat 5: giggs22 ( $825 )
Seat 6: schafdog1 ( $1045 )
Seat 7: loolubird ( $1600 )
Seat 8: TIUNA ( $865 )
Seat 9: otterman8 ( $910 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $1230 )
Trny:11636689 Level:2
Blinds (10/20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Kd Ks ]
kingsnogoood calls [20].
NotChad01 folds.
Kozzo folds.
doctor_ez folds.
odell_1120 calls [20].
giggs22 folds.
schafdog1 folds.
loolubird raises [150].
TIUNA folds.
otterman8 folds.
kingsnogoood calls [130].
odell_1120 calls [130].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 2d, 5h ]
kingsnogoood checks.
odell_1120 checks.
loolubird checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
kingsnogoood bets [350].
odell_1120 folds.
loolubird folds.
kingsnogoood does not show cards.
kingsnogoood wins 830 chips
Game #1952655918 starts.

Originally Posted by dalecooper

Yo aces, what's this about? This might be the most passive play I've ever seen you post, particularly given your cards.

#Game No : 1952648395
***** Hand History for Game 1952648395 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Monday, April 25, 21:24:11 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: NotChad01 ( $1825 )
Seat 2: Kozzo ( $1840 )
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $940 )
Seat 4: odell_1120 ( $855 )
Seat 5: giggs22 ( $825 )
Seat 6: schafdog1 ( $1045 )
Seat 7: loolubird ( $1600 )
Seat 8: TIUNA ( $865 )
Seat 9: otterman8 ( $910 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $1230 )
Trny:11636689 Level:2
Blinds (10/20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Kd Ks ]
kingsnogoood calls [20].
NotChad01 folds.
Kozzo folds.
doctor_ez folds.
odell_1120 calls [20].
giggs22 folds.
schafdog1 folds.
loolubird raises [150].
TIUNA folds.
otterman8 folds.
kingsnogoood calls [130].
odell_1120 calls [130].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 2d, 5h ]
kingsnogoood checks.
odell_1120 checks.
loolubird checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
kingsnogoood bets [350].
odell_1120 folds.
loolubird folds.
kingsnogoood does not show cards.
kingsnogoood wins 830 chips
Game #1952655918 starts.

yes I know my biggest mistake of the tourney.

Damn, I was hoping you had some top secret reason for playing it that way that could help me play better.

Congrats on the great win, by the way.

Originally Posted by dalecooper

Damn, I was hoping you had some top secret reason for playing it that way that could help me play better.

Congrats on the great win, by the way.

Well yes I was trying to trap, but thats not too secret.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

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-'rilla

super monday not super tuesday!

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Couple of hands I wanted to question you about, mainly because I play them differently.

#Game No : 1952798692
***** Hand History for Game 1952798692 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:3 Blinds (15/30) - Monday, April 25, 21:47:40 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: NotChad01 ( $1720 )
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $1640 )
Seat 4: odell_1120 ( $515 )
Seat 5: giggs22 ( $1020 )
Seat 6: schafdog1 ( $930 )
Seat 7: loolubird ( $1865 )
Seat 8: TIUNA ( $845 )
Seat 9: otterman8 ( $1655 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $1565 )
Seat 2: I_hit_da_Set ( $1455 )
Trny:11636689 Level:3
Blinds (15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Qs As ]
giggs22 folds.
schafdog1 folds.
loolubird folds.
TIUNA raises [125].
otterman8 folds.
kingsnogoood folds.
NotChad01 folds.
I_hit_da_Set folds.
doctor_ez folds.
odell_1120 folds.
TIUNA does not show cards.
TIUNA wins 170 chips
Game #1952801957 starts.

Fold AQs to a raise preflop? Generally I reraise to see where I stand. I notice that you fold AQ quite a few times in this tourney. What's your mentality with that hand when it's dealt to you?



#Game No : 1953083735
***** Hand History for Game 1953083735 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:5 Blinds (50/100) - Monday, April 25, 22:30:46 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $4210 )
Seat 4: odell_1120 ( $1105 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $7270 )
Seat 2: I_hit_da_Set ( $2640 )
Seat 1: thomb2233 ( $6005 )
Seat 9: jabo14us ( $3125 )
Seat 8: point14 ( $2990 )
Seat 5: Antipode ( $1310 )
Seat 6: menlomob ( $915 )
Seat 7: markcunningh ( $1186 )
Trny:11636689 Level:5
Blinds (50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ 8c 8h ]
markcunningh folds.
point14 folds.
jabo14us calls [100].
kingsnogoood calls [100].
thomb2233 folds.
I_hit_da_Set raises [500].
doctor_ez folds.
odell_1120 folds.
Antipode folds.
menlomob folds.
jabo14us folds.
kingsnogoood calls [400].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 4c, 5c ]
kingsnogoood checks.
I_hit_da_Set bets [1100].
kingsnogoood raises [2200].
I_hit_da_Set is all-In [1040]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
kingsnogoood shows [ 8c, 8h ] a pair of eights.
I_hit_da_Set shows [ Ah, Kc ] high card ace.
kingsnogoood wins 60 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of eights.
kingsnogoood wins 5530 chips from the main pot with a pair of eights.
Player I_hit_da_Set finished in 455 place
I_hit_da_Set has left the table.
Game #1953090394 starts.

Sick read here, great play.

Basically the question is how do you get the dealer to keep giving you Kings and Aces?

AQ I woud just rather not play unless I am the one raising. However, I will play it if I am in need of chips or blind stealing.

Second hand. The guy couldnt have made it more obvious as his betting pattern went bonko.

Very nice win, and thanks for the post. A few hands I was wondering about:

#Game No : 1952767965
***** Hand History for Game 1952767965 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:3 Blinds (15/30) - Monday, April 25, 21:42:57 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: NotChad01 ( $1765 )
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $1980 )
Seat 4: odell_1120 ( $515 )
Seat 5: giggs22 ( $875 )
Seat 6: schafdog1 ( $930 )
Seat 7: loolubird ( $1865 )
Seat 8: TIUNA ( $845 )
Seat 9: otterman8 ( $855 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $2080 )
Seat 2: I_hit_da_Set ( $1500 )
Trny:11636689 Level:3
Blinds (15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ 5d 8s ]
NotChad01 folds.
I_hit_da_Set folds.
doctor_ez folds.
odell_1120 folds.
giggs22 folds.
schafdog1 folds.
loolubird folds.
TIUNA folds.
otterman8 calls [15].
kingsnogoood checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 8c, Ts ]
otterman8 checks.
kingsnogoood bets [30].
otterman8 calls [30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
otterman8 checks.
kingsnogoood bets [30].
otterman8 raises [125].
kingsnogoood raises [190].
otterman8 calls [95].
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
otterman8 bets [200].
kingsnogoood raises [500].
otterman8 is all-In [375]
kingsnogoood calls [75].
kingsnogoood shows [ 5d, 8s ] a pair of eights.
otterman8 shows [ Ah, Td ] two pairs, aces and tens.
otterman8 wins 1710 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and tens.
Game #1952778285 starts.

BPNK? Why defend so strongly here? There isnt that much to win; did you have that strong a read on him at this stage?


#Game No : 1952949128
***** Hand History for Game 1952949128 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:4 Blinds (25/50) - Monday, April 25, 22:10:37 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $1915 )
Seat 4: odell_1120 ( $765 )
Seat 5: giggs22 ( $1055 )
Seat 6: schafdog1 ( $825 )
Seat 7: loolubird ( $1460 )
Seat 8: TIUNA ( $790 )
Seat 9: otterman8 ( $1415 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $1460 )
Seat 2: I_hit_da_Set ( $3525 )
Seat 1: thomb2233 ( $3930 )
Trny:11636689 Level:4
Blinds (25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Kh Ad ]
loolubird raises [150].
TIUNA folds.
otterman8 folds.
kingsnogoood raises [275].
thomb2233 folds.
I_hit_da_Set folds.
doctor_ez folds.
odell_1120 folds.
giggs22 folds.
schafdog1 folds.
loolubird calls [125].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 7h, 6d ]
loolubird checks.
kingsnogoood bets [400].
I_hit_da_Set: by
I_hit_da_Set: bye
loolubird is all-In [1185]
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
kingsnogoood will be using his time bank for this hand.
kingsnogoood is all-In [785]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
kingsnogoood shows [ Kh, Ad ] a pair of kings.
loolubird shows [ Jd, Js ] a pair of jacks.
kingsnogoood wins 2995 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.
Player loolubird finished in 606 place
loolubird has left the table.
Game #1952959124 starts.

Did you think you were behind or ahead here? Seems like he played it just like any pp, are you taking the 24% and risking your tourney for the pot odds? or am i missing something.

#Game No : 1953489857
***** Hand History for Game 1953489857 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:8 Blinds (150/300) - Monday, April 25, 23:30:16 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $6403 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $17469 )
Seat 8: point14 ( $4288 )
Seat 7: markcunningh ( $1156 )
Seat 2: FIR3WAT3R ( $1100 )
Seat 6: Fatboywilly1 ( $5470 )
Seat 4: TotalScience ( $2065 )
Seat 9: IShowMyNuts ( $9619 )
Seat 5: TRHUNTER ( $1630 )
Seat 1: Twinklebone ( $5168 )
Trny:11636689 Level:8
Blinds (150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Jc Ac ]
Twinklebone folds.
FIR3WAT3R folds.
doctor_ez folds.
TotalScience folds.
TRHUNTER folds.
Fatboywilly1 folds.
markcunningh folds.
point14 folds.
IShowMyNuts raises [1350].
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
I give it to you this time
kingsnogoood folds.
IShowMyNuts does not show cards.
IShowMyNuts wins 1800 chips
Game #1953496198 starts.

What do you think he has? Are you avoiding a coinflip?

#Game No : 1954234854
***** Hand History for Game 1954234854 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:14 Blinds (1000/2000) - Tuesday, April 26, 01:38:02 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #4 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: fishhook8 ( $27048 )
Seat 3: LuckyBeano ( $27544 )
Seat 4: kingsnogoood ( $63927 )
Seat 6: mcsd99 ( $20060 )
Seat 8: doublmeup1 ( $18452 )
Seat 9: kahlyn ( $35431 )
Seat 5: doctor_ez ( $32812 )
Seat 7: joaobacelar ( $37000 )
Seat 10: Worm33 ( $16913 )
Seat 2: HARD2HANDLE3 ( $2575 )
Trny:11636689 Level:14
Blinds (1000/2000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Qs Jh ]
kahlyn folds.
Worm33 folds.
fishhook8 folds.
HARD2HANDLE3 folds.
LuckyBeano folds.
kingsnogoood raises [6000].
doctor_ez folds.
mcsd99 folds.
joaobacelar folds.
doublmeup1 is all-In [16452]
kingsnogoood calls [12452].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Kh, Th ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
kingsnogoood shows [ Qs, Jh ] a straight, nine to king.
doublmeup1 shows [ Jc, Ad ] high card ace.
kingsnogoood wins 37904 chips from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.
DAM
VNH
Player doublmeup1 finished in 39 place and received $762.75
ALL IN MY A SS
doublmeup1 has left the table.
Game #1954238682 starts.

Hmm... whats your thinking on this one? Chances of being dominated are surely pretty high; or are you taking the odds for a coinflip; hardly committed with 6k right?

#Game No : 1954342406
***** Hand History for Game 1954342406 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:16 Blinds (2000/4000) - Tuesday, April 26, 02:01:08 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: kingsnogoood ( $74379 )
Seat 2: stuk5 ( $60797 )
Seat 3: rx108 ( $37936 )
Seat 4: dustin84 ( $16134 )
Seat 5: justme56 ( $39889 )
Seat 6: chuckerace16 ( $38297 )
Seat 7: frankking ( $25560 )
Seat 8: SharkBate18 ( $22168 )
Seat 9: doctor_ez ( $22312 )
Seat 10: LuckyBeano ( $19544 )
Trny:11636689 Level:16
Blinds (2000/4000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Jc Jh ]
SharkBate18 folds.
doctor_ez folds.
LuckyBeano folds.
kingsnogoood raises [12000].
stuk5 folds.
rx108 folds.
dustin84 folds.
justme56 folds.
chuckerace16 folds.
frankking folds.
kingsnogoood does not show cards.
kingsnogoood wins 18000 chips
Game #1954344915 starts.

Just curious why you go out to 4BB here rather than your usual (up to this point in the tourney) 3BB preflop raise. Do you want your opponents to notice?

#Game No : 1954597535
***** Hand History for Game 1954597535 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:19 Blinds (5000/10000) - Tuesday, April 26, 03:07:29 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: kingsnogoood ( $185318 )
Seat 2: stuk5 ( $176876 )
Seat 3: Twinklebone ( $59876 )
Seat 9: joaobacelar ( $150982 )
Seat 5: RayMcGraw ( $180272 )
Seat 6: ZeeJustin ( $156738 )
Seat 8: CrdSharpCook ( $9866 )
Seat 10: JAFO12 ( $97072 )
Trny:11636689 Level:19
Blinds (5000/10000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Th Ts ]
Twinklebone folds.
Letmos: wait for J2
RayMcGraw folds.
ZeeJustin folds.
CrdSharpCook folds.
joaobacelar calls [10000].
CrdSharpCook: thanks, volk
JAFO12 folds.
volkings: yw
kingsnogoood raises [35000].
stuk5 folds.
joaobacelar calls [30000].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 8s, 2d ]
kingsnogoood is all-In [145318]
joaobacelar folds.
kingsnogoood does not show cards.
kingsnogoood wins 235318 chips
Game #1954599873 starts.

Whats your thought process on the all in bet? I think most people here would attempt a checkraise (myself included), is it trying to get a call from AK/99? Not many callable hands are behind you here.


Note: Not trying to criticise at all, as Im sure your a much better player than me, just trying to gain an understanding in to some of the hands I would have played differently.

Oh, and congrats.

I will answer some your questions tomorow during the day when I am not playing, quick thought yes a few of those were misplayed.

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

I will answer some your questions tomorow during the day when I am not playing, quick thought yes a few of those were misplayed.

thanks aces.

wasnt implying there was a misplay in any of those hands, just that i was interested in your thought processes as I wouldnt have made the same play in your situation.

Wow... I feel like I just finished a really awesome book. Good plot, cool twists, interesting characters, and a wicked finish. Congrats ilikeaces, and thanks for posting the HH.

I definately got some neat insights from reading through that. One question I have in particular. After you took out doublmeup1 with QJo, he said:

doublmeup1: QJ wtf was that

I was expecting after that to read:

ilikeaces: shh.... I'm trying to count your chips

But it was nowhere to be found... Do you not like this move?

iwasakib: FTR > 2+2

I wet myself when I read this.

Thanks again. It was nice showing this to my wife and saying "See? See? This could be me!!!". Yeah......

Darkwing

the play in that pocket 8s hand is unbelievable.. to trust your read like that, wow.

He could feasibly have had pocket aces through jacks and just protected his hand on the flop.

Would you have made the same move if the raise on the flop would have put you all in? Would you have been more cautious in that situation, knowing if you were wrong you'd be out.

well done btw &thanks for sharing

Originally Posted by Wet_DreaMer

#Game No : 1953489857
***** Hand History for Game 1953489857 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:11636689 Level:8 Blinds (150/300) - Monday, April 25, 23:30:16 EDT 2005
Table Super Monday(314723) Table #6 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: doctor_ez ( $6403 )
Seat 10: kingsnogoood ( $17469 )
Seat 8: point14 ( $4288 )
Seat 7: markcunningh ( $1156 )
Seat 2: FIR3WAT3R ( $1100 )
Seat 6: Fatboywilly1 ( $5470 )
Seat 4: TotalScience ( $2065 )
Seat 9: IShowMyNuts ( $9619 )
Seat 5: TRHUNTER ( $1630 )
Seat 1: Twinklebone ( $5168 )
Trny:11636689 Level:8
Blinds (150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kingsnogoood [ Jc Ac ]
Twinklebone folds.
FIR3WAT3R folds.
doctor_ez folds.
TotalScience folds.
TRHUNTER folds.
Fatboywilly1 folds.
markcunningh folds.
point14 folds.
IShowMyNuts raises [1350].
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
I give it to you this time
kingsnogoood folds.
IShowMyNuts does not show cards.
IShowMyNuts wins 1800 chips
Game #1953496198 starts.

What do you think he has? Are you avoiding a coinflip?

I can't speak for ilikeaces but I don't think he is avoiding a coin flip. I think hes avoiding being dominated.

Wet_DreaMer I will try and explain some of the hands,

Hand 1)
I thought I was making the read of my life turned out to be the worst play of my life.

Hand 2)
So low and chips that I was thinking I was in need of making this call. Very well could of ended my tourney.

Hand 3)
What hand do you expect to be ahead of here if I call?

Hand 4) 10K to call and I am getting the right price. I was thinking I would be using the gap concept and either be up vs AK which I would be 2:1 dog or up vs 10s or lower pair and be a flip. Once I had already raised it I had to call.

Hand 5)
I bet that out by accident, as you can see I went back to 3BB raises after that.

Hand 6)
I simply did not want to see a turn as 1010 is still very vulnerable. I live by the mentality the less hands you have to showdown the better. You win every hand you dont show down.

That is a surprising fold with the AJ (in hand 3 as you refer to it) in the BB against the SB's 4.5xBB raise.

You ask what hand you can expect to be ahead of, and I'd argue almost anyone he'd hold (besides coinflips against small pairs). People don't overbet with monsters from the SB in blind wars.

I think this is a case where you're much more likely to dominate their hand than be dominated. I'm not sure if I'd just call or if I'd raise here, but I'd certainly be playing it every time, expecting to be ahead here (and very likely against a weaker ace).

Originally Posted by michael1123

That is a surprising fold with the AJ (in hand 3 as you refer to it) in the BB against the SB's 4.5xBB raise.

You ask what hand you can expect to be ahead of, and I'd argue almost anyone he'd hold (besides coinflips against small pairs). People don't overbet with monsters from the SB in blind wars.

I think this is a case where you're much more likely to dominate their hand than be dominated. I'm not sure if I'd just call or if I'd raise here, but I'd certainly be playing it every time, expecting to be ahead here (and very likely against a weaker ace).

He had a 9k stack and if I was gonna play it was gonna be a reraise for his whole stack... not worth the risk to me.

Personally, I feel the risk is so small that it would be worth the risk to me. I'd be fine with taking a flop too, but I agree that if I raise, I'm certainly putting him all in.

From my experience, the size of his raise, and his position, by far the two most likely hands he has is a small pocket pair (6s or under) or a weak ace, since he's showing a lot of weakness by not raising a standard 3xBB, which he clearly would with every hand that has you beat (AA-JJ, AK, and AQ) against a random hand, as he'd want a call with these clearly.

Chances are even if he has a small pocket pair, he'd fold it out of fear that you had a higher pair, with all the strength you'd be showing by coming over the top of him. Seems like free money out there to me.

But hey, I'm not arguing with your results in this tourney. Very nice win.

:O

Im astonished... Congratulations!

and whew wee you sure do know what your talking about huh michael... and i thought i was starting to get decent at this poker... well atleast now i know i have a lot more to learn

Originally Posted by michael1123

Personally, I feel the risk is so small that it would be worth the risk to me. I'd be fine with taking a flop too, but I agree that if I raise, I'm certainly putting him all in.

From my experience, the size of his raise, and his position, by far the two most likely hands he has is a small pocket pair (6s or under) or a weak ace, since he's showing a lot of weakness by not raising a standard 3xBB, which he clearly would with every hand that has you beat (AA-JJ, AK, and AQ) against a random hand, as he'd want a call with these clearly.

Chances are even if he has a small pocket pair, he'd fold it out of fear that you had a higher pair, with all the strength you'd be showing by coming over the top of him. Seems like free money out there to me.

But hey, I'm not arguing with your results in this tourney. Very nice win.

I didnt feel like I was in a postion I needed to risk most my stack with a marginal hand like AJ

Thanks very much aces, although i think i do agree with m1123 on that AJ hand.

IMO, the AJ hand was just a smart, smart decision. If he'd reraised, that would have been half of his stack gone if he lost the showdown. There are much better spots to take down pots, especially as big chip leader. I would have felt very uneasy playing that hand. He flips AQ and you're left wondering why on earth you took the risk in such a great chip position.

Originally Posted by Riddick Blowe

IMO, the AJ hand was just a smart, smart decision. If he'd reraised, that would have been half of his stack gone if he lost the showdown. There are much better spots to take down pots, especially as big chip leader. I would have felt very uneasy playing that hand. He flips AQ and you're left wondering why on earth you took the risk in such a great chip position.

But he didn't have you beat ... haha. I swear, I'm so damn positive of that. He was weak and he probably would've folded to a reraise. If he does call, I still think you either have him dominated or its a race. A9o or 66 is the best hand I can possibly put him on (when compared to a random hand, clearly 66 would be better against what you have), and to be honest, I feel that's pushing it. I feel like A6o or 22/33 is the most likely hands he has.

The only reason I'd consider taking a flop is not because I'm worried of being beat, but really just to make sure you hit and/or to trap him. I'm really feeling there's such a good chance that if the flop comes Axx he'd give you his stack and you'd have him outkicked. If the flop is J high, you clearly have him as well, I just doubt he'd give you his stack (unless he's very aggressive). If you don't hit a pair you can just dump it if he bets.

The size of his raise, in a blind war, screams to me that he has a decent hand that he assumes beats your random BB hand, but its very flimsy and he'd rather just take your BB. A2o is more likely than AQ.

But really all this arguing over one not very significant hand is just for fun. I think it would've given you some extra chips had you played it more aggressively, but it clearly wasn't neccesary.

Originally Posted by michael1123

But he didn't have you beat ... haha. I swear, I'm so damn positive of that. He was weak and he probably would've folded to a reraise. If he does call, I still think you either have him dominated or its a race. A9o or 66 is the best hand I can possibly put him on (when compared to a random hand, clearly 66 would be better against what you have), and to be honest, I feel that's pushing it. I feel like A6o or 22/33 is the most likely hands he has.

The only reason I'd consider taking a flop is not because I'm worried of being beat, but really just to make sure you hit and/or to trap him. I'm really feeling there's such a good chance that if the flop comes Axx he'd give you his stack and you'd have him outkicked. If the flop is J high, you clearly have him as well, I just doubt he'd give you his stack (unless he's very aggressive). If you don't hit a pair you can just dump it if he bets.

The size of his raise, in a blind war, screams to me that he has a decent hand that he assumes beats your random BB hand, but its very flimsy and he'd rather just take your BB. A2o is more likely than AQ.

But really all this arguing over one not very significant hand is just for fun. I think it would've given you some extra chips had you played it more aggressively, but it clearly wasn't neccesary.

Don't hate me because Im beatiful!

Nice win aces!!! I am about half way through the HH. Now you have to admit that you did get a boat load of pp. So far ive seen AA,AA,AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT,88,99,44,55. Not to mention the AK/AQs. Those were some nice cards to build the early stack. Again well done.

Originally Posted by dalai007

Nice win aces!!! I am about half way through the HH. Now you have to admit that you did get a boat load of pp. So far ive seen AA,AA,AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT,88,99,44,55. Not to mention the AK/AQs. Those were some nice cards to build the early stack. Again well done.

I was getting some nice cards!

Just to chim in here, in a large tourny like these you aren't going to win without some cards and a bit o luck on your side.

This is why no-name players can win the WSOP. They aren't the best, they are just good enough at the right times... Not to say Aces isn't a good player, but if he was geting shit for cards all night he wouldn't have even made the money.