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    Default does playing KK like this make me a nit?

    - OnkelOni sitting in seat 1 with $119.25
    - DeValois sitting in seat 2 with $180.78 [Dealer]
    - plznomore2 sitting in seat 3 with $93.84
    - NITTYMcNITTYSON sitting in seat 4 with $181.50
    - cheesie21 sitting in seat 5 with $58.50
    - icefaceRSF sitting in seat 6 with $52.20

    plznomore2 posted the small blind - $0.50
    NITTYMcNITTYSON posted the big blind - $1.00
    ** Dealing card to NITTYMcNITTYSON: King of Hearts, King of Spades
    cheesie21 folded
    icefaceRSF folded
    OnkelOni raised - $4.00
    DeValois called - $4.00
    plznomore2 called - $4.00
    NITTYMcNITTYSON went all-in - $181.50
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    ROFL!
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    I am confused. You have the second best starting hand in the game and you want to use it to steal $12?


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    give us reads, ill do this sometimes but it depends on opponents.
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    Default Re: does playing KK like this make me a nit?

    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    does playing KK like this make me a nit?
    In a word, Yes.
    Unless you image is complete doodie. Sad part is 2 years ago you get action on Party by some AJs idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos
    I am confused. You have the second best starting hand in the game and you want to use it to steal $12?
    which is precisely why it's probably very nitty and not optimal....i did it mostly because i didn't wanna see a Axx flop.

    another thing...a solid 3bet would be around $30. if we get a caller, because of the size of the pot we'd be forced to felt almost any flop.

    and such a donkish lookin push might open up calling ranges...no?
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    Possibly, but your stack is covering villains so it is less likely the call and stack off.
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  8. #8
    Go back to sng's donk

    j/k. Hey might as well make it look like a misclick and have something weak look ya up. I shoved KK the other day and was surprised to get looked up, but I did.
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    Anything that calls a raise is going to call a felt, I dont hate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphoricism
    Anything that calls a raise is going to call a felt, I dont hate it.
    no
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    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos
    I am confused. You have the second best starting hand in the game and you want to use it to steal $12?
    which is precisely why it's probably very nitty and not optimal....i did it mostly because i didn't wanna see a Axx flop.
    You're thinking very short term here. Yes sometime's you'll see an ace on the flop, but most of the time you won't and will make more money over time.

    I will do what you did if I believe there's a reason I'll get called by worse but I get the feeling since you didn't provide that information in the original post that wasn't what was happening.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    a solid 3bet would be around $30.
    ...... no more like $18 -22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
    Quote Originally Posted by euphoricism
    Anything that calls a raise is going to call a felt, I dont hate it.
    no
    What a great post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    a solid 3bet would be around $30.
    ...... no more like $18 -22
    If we make it $20, its $16 for someone to call. Someone might call incorrectly with a PP, but I doubt it. Your best chance is action from QQ... and you'll be AI on the flop anyway. $40 pot with about $60 behind going into the flop. A cbet commits you, right?
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  15. #15
    ...dont waste kings like this
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    this is as close to making kings -ev as u can get here without min raising
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    that's b/c you're assuming you only get called by aces?
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphoricism
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    a solid 3bet would be around $30.
    ...... no more like $18 -22
    Someone might call incorrectly with a PP, but I doubt it. Your best chance is action from QQ... and you'll be AI on the flop anyway.
    You'd be surprised how loosely people call three-bets, especially if it's in a squeeze oppourtunity like this. Make it $22, and play a flop (hopefully) because you're making tons of money in these spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    You'd be surprised how loosely people call three-bets, especially if it's in a squeeze oppourtunity like this. Make it $22, and play a flop (hopefully) because you're making tons of money in these spots.
    ok, let's raise it up to 22. DeValois calls (160bb behind). the others fold.
    the pot is 52bb, and the flop comes AJ8. or, let's say it comes 765 rainbow. you cbet 40bb, and villain pushes the rest of his 160bb. we have to fold, don't we?

    i dunno, i don't see how we can get value postflop unless the opponents are incredibly bad, and i don't have any reason to believe so against these particular opponents.
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    I really don't think you're a nit. It looks like you are a tourney player who is not used to having to play postflop poker and were faced with a situation where you were unaware of the proper line. You took a line you knew could not be incorrect. It could be a lot less +EV than you could have captured but it is not a -EV play.
  21. #21
    ummm...

    no, but I'm not sure I understand this line unless you've been donk-shoving other hands and gotten caught.

    edit : just read your posts through the thread and it seems like you are looking to avoid marginal spots on the flop and later streets. While you're still playing at this level, you should get used to these spots since playing them well is essential to profiting at higher stakes.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    i think spenda hit the nail. i was gonna do a raise with the raise + CC, but once the 2nd CC came in i went into "sng auto-pilot" mode or something, for the reasons i've state previously....except that this is not the bubble and i have a stack behind me! lookin back at it now, since one guy had a deep 180bb stack, he would only call with AA/KK here.

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