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    Default Dumb hand, fold preflop?

    I fucked this up bad me thinks, but I want to check anyway.

    joujou must have sat down within the last few orbits as I haven't noticed him yet and he has no stats showing. I wanted to fold because the 'ol UTG limp then raise is a donk AA specialty, but then that other retard called. Do I still have to lay this down? I think the flop is the best I could ask for so I figure stick her in. I think there's something in me that makes me want to bust every dummy with a badly played AA.

    I probably don't need to mention that osLobos sucks due to his expert min-raise/call 4-bet play preflop.

    Bad all around or what?

    TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-56532493-293
    played at "Makkas x's HE" for USD RM from 2007-12-21 23:15 until 2007-12-21 23:16

    Seat 4: artsi68 ($175.15 in chips)
    Seat 5: Galapogos [ A,Q ] ($106.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: joujou baa ($108.90 in chips)
    Seat 9: osLobos ($98 in chips)
    Seat 10: Axtujo ($168.25 in chips)

    Antes/Blinds
    artsi68 posts blind ($0.50), Galapogos posts blind ($1).

    Pre-Flop
    joujou baa calls $1, osLobos bets $2, Axtujo calls $2, artsi68 calls $1.50, Galapogos bets $11, joujou baa bets $25, osLobos calls $24, Axtujo folds, artsi68 folds, Galapogos calls $14.

    Flop [board cards: 6,K,8 ]
    Galapogos checks, joujou baa bets $25, osLobos folds, Galapogos bets $80.50 and is all-in, joujou baa calls $55.50.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    nasty. whats your opinion on this guys play? he limps pf and then 4 bets. If hes terrible he could easily have something like 88 here and you are probably good to just shove this in pf. If hes pretty decent and slightly tricky I think you have to put him on KK+. I might be inclined to call the small reraise and see if I can hit two pair or something good. As is on the flop I don't think you have any fold equity really so call and hit gin on the turn?

    I'm interested to see what people think of my reasoning here.
    Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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    i'm really an advocate of either folding or shoving this hand preflop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    i'm really an advocate of either folding or shoving this hand preflop.
    Well I definately didn't want to shove here because I can't see this being something I'm decent against ever. And as for folding, I would but by the time the pot got back around to me it was $14 to call into an almost $70 pot with two bad players. So if my assumption is correct, if I hit gold I'm basically gauranteed to be paid off by UTG, and a good chance of getting paid off by the other guy. Is folding still the better option vs calling despite all of this?


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.

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