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  1. #1

    Default felting AK pre flop

    Opponent is a regular and very aggro 26/22. Observed him 4-bet a high frequency. I don't like felting AK pf too often with full stacks, but some players just force you to or you will get run over. Thoughts, how often will you do this in a cash game?

    ** Game ID 1296824393 starting - 2007-03-31 22:57:40
    ** Temptation [Hold 'em] (4.00|8.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

    - Lucky88 sitting in seat 1 with $1908.62
    - SayYoureSry sitting in seat 2 with $796.00
    - engen sitting in seat 3 with $2444.39 [Dealer]
    - LiqdDynamite sitting in seat 4 with $757.60
    - Cocco_Bill sitting in seat 5 with $868.00
    - Bolton sitting in seat 6 with $223.80

    LiqdDynamite posted the small blind - $4.00
    Cocco_Bill posted the big blind - $8.00
    ** Dealing card to Cocco_Bill: :As:, :Ks:
    Bolton folded
    Lucky88 folded
    SayYoureSry raised - $32.00
    engen called - $32.00
    LiqdDynamite folded
    Cocco_Bill raised - $119.00
    SayYoureSry raised - $332.00
    engen folded
    Cocco_Bill went all-in - $757.00
    SayYoureSry went all-in - $464.00

    ** Dealing the flop: , ,

    ** Dealing the turn:

    ** Dealing the river:
    SayYoureSry shows: :Ah:, :Qs:
    Cocco_Bill shows: :As:, :Ks:
    Cocco_Bill wins $1625.00 from the main pot

    End of game 1296824393
  2. #2
    I haven't done this yet, but I'm sure there are good spots for it. Should make your AA and KK more profitable as well.
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  3. #3
    I like it b/c I believe players at this level don't regularly 4bet AA/KK do they?
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    the only time i dont do it is when i call the 3 bet and check raise allin on ANY board
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    standard for me since you look like you could be squeezing light.
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    looks pretty standard honestly
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    I do this a lot. I'm surprised you don't? Maybe part of the reason you make so much more $ than I do...
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    All in pre with AK at these stakes i think isnt a mistake.
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    std... i basically never fold AK preflop... possibly to my detriment
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    According to dan bright, AK is teh nuts.
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    Bill...

    That slick is SOOOOOOTED gimme a break are you ever folding?

    Based on your read this is standard and good imo.

    My question is this :

    Do you typically pitch your AKs if villain is an unknown or a known tight player?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    I can't remember the last time I folded AK preflop.

    Oh yeah, Pavel55's open raise utg lol.
  14. #14
    I hate AK, it always gets owned by AA/KK when I felt it preflop. But then I do it again...lol

    Hand is super standard, really. You have like 3-4 reasons at least to felt this: him 4betting alot, him thinkin ure squeezing, money in da pot is huuge, and last but not least, its soooooted!!!!
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  15. #15
    I folded AK pre recently but i rarely do it.
  16. #16
    What about this one? Opp plays 21/7/3 and I have never seen him 4-bet anyone over more than 200 hands. Would you call considering the stack sizes?

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    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
    5 players
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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $95.60
    CO: $34.80
    Button: $36.05
    SB: $66.60
    Hero: $105.42

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
    3 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, SB raises all-in $66.6, Hero ??
  17. #17
    I hate blind wars. You're barely getting the odds to call against a PP and that's without AA/KK in his range. I think AQ has to be in his range a lot for me to make this call.
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    Why would he play like this 120 BB deep with a monster hand?


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  19. #19
    I will always Felt AK, AK(s) Pre... unless all information on player says he only pushes big PP/AK pre! or we our super deep in stack sizes (+300BB)!
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    Wow. Games are so much more aggressive on yank friendly sites. I fold AK preflop often. I'd say the average player I play with is about 40/6 no exageration.

    As for Coco's hand this seems super standard against this player.


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    i felt AK fairly often. I try not to 200bbs + deep. When i have felted it pre ive seen JJ/QQ much more than AA/KK.
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  22. #22
    I've actually only folded AKs 4 times pre flop in 330k hands. In the games I've been playing its just been rare to get 4 bet or pushed at with 100bb+ stacks. AKs is netting 2,32BB/hand, I don't know how good or bad that is... I also have a fairly tight table image to take into consideration.

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