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  1. #1

    Default A few hands

    Hand 1) Villian is 29/16

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    UTG ($312.10)
    Hero ($372.40)
    Button ($490)
    SB ($307.30)
    BB ($746.20)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q. SB posts a blind of $2.
    UTG calls $4, Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, UTG calls $16.

    Flop: ($46) 6, 4, 5 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $32, UTG raises to $99, Hero calls $67.

    Turn: ($244) T (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero calls $253.40 (All-In), UTG calls $193.10 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $690.50

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    Hand 2) Villian is a 50/5 standard fish

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    BB ($325.39)
    UTG ($400)
    MP ($609.10)
    Hero ($394)
    Button ($145.96)
    SB ($335.55)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A. SB posts a blind of $2.
    2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, BB calls $12.

    Flop: ($34) 8, 6, J (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB calls $28.

    Turn: ($90) 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $56, BB calls $56.

    River: ($202) 8 (2 players)
    BB calls $225.39 (All-In), Hero ???

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    Hand3) Villian is 22/15 Good TAG. Seems to play back at my blind steals alot. I know this sucks. How do you play it?

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    UTG ($392.48)
    MP ($191)
    CO ($164)
    Hero ($497.80)
    SB ($109.50)
    BB ($2009.04)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 2. SB posts a blind of $2.
    3 folds, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, BB calls $12.

    Flop: ($34) 9, 4, 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB raises to $74, Hero calls $461.80 (All-In), BB calls $407.80.

    Turn: ($997.60) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($997.60) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $997.60

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    Hand 4) Guy was tight 7% PFR

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    Hero ($476.40)
    UTG ($288.85)
    MP ($1568.40)
    CO ($403.90)
    Button ($209.12)
    SB ($564.24)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A. SB posts a blind of $2.
    UTG raises to $14, MP calls $14, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $12, Hero calls $10.

    Flop: ($56) K, J, 6 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $36, UTG raises to $72, MP folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $411.77, UTG calls $202.85 (All-In).

    Turn: ($742.62) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($742.62) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $742.62
  2. #2
    Ugh, I feel really weak tight after writing this out. If anybody disagrees with anything, let me know.

    1) This is a tough hand because I cant imagine a guy that is 29/16 open limping much at all. He is probably raising all PPs, there is a chance he is trying to get tricky with AA/KK, maybe he is limping non suited connectors, small suited connecters, small pocket pairs, I really dont know. Any reads other than stats? What hands have you seen him openlimp? I dont see him doing this with a hand we beat, atleats not one he would put anymore money in with.

    2) I really doubt he is doing this with something like QJ or KJ, c/c c/c then push on the river is a scary line that could mean a lot. what are his showdown stats? A calling station could think you are making a steal and trying to get to showdown with an 8, could be "slowplaying" a flush, doing a lot of things with a lot of random hands. Again reads more than VPIP/PFR are important here, but I dont think we are going to be ahead too often here.

    3) I dont think this is that bad. In this situation his c/r could easily be him trying to pick off your cbet and I dont like calling, this push should be fine. If we put him on a range of 99+, 22 on calling your push you are slightly behind, there is only one way to make 22 so thats not all that likely, a set is possible though and so is an over pair. The benefit of this move is that you could get him to fold a hand like TT, or JJ, or another pair. I think this is probably standard.

    4) Somebody with a PFR of 7% is probably raising around 4% UTG, maybe less. At 4% it is something like 99+, AKx, AQs. He isnt raising anything that would play this hard that we would beat, Id say JJ is very likely as is an overpair. Our best hope is that we are splitting with AK, because I cant see many other hands in his range that would be this aggressive. AQc is possible I guess, but thats about it that we are ahead of, so pushing while right sometimes when you only get called by better hands most likely isnt right here.
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    1: How would you play the turn if the 8 or hit? Why not 3-bet the flop?

    2: Tough spot. I fold without more info. Do you know anything about his river aggression?

    3: I like this. Lots of equity vs. overpairs/sets, and FE is big too. Btw: I don't like playing weak aces, I'd rather steal with K7s or something.

    4: This sucks. With your read you know you're crushed and splitting at best.
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    Hand 3: Why are you picking a fight with him when you have a nothing hand unlikely to hit a flop much harder than that?

    Hand 4: Fold pre-flop. There just is no reason to give this guy any action. Fail that, you turned your hand into 72off when you 3-bet all-in on the flop.
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    Hand 1: This is probably bad since it makes it so easy for a set/straight to stack you, but I find myself often just pushing the flop here. I think it's fine how you played it, though. Depending on what I thought he had, I might just fold to the c/r, even against a player of these stats. EXTREMELY read dependant spot.

    Hand 2: Lol, ouch. I don't know. Flip a coin?

    fwiw, it's pretty obvious you're beat, but I usually call just so I can see what the other guy has. The alternative is to convince yourself that he has the bare ace of hearts, which is a possibility, but unlikely IMO.

    Hand 3: I don't dislike the preflop raise against some players, but against a good TAgg, I'd probably just respect his blind here.

    Post-flop is beautiful. High variance, but I'd play it the same way.

    Hand 4:

    [obvious]he doesn't have KQ, dude.[/obvious]
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    Hand 4: Fold pre-flop. There just is no reason to give this guy any action. Fail that, you turned your hand into 72off when you 3-bet all-in on the flop.
    Let's talk about this, particularly the correct preflop play here. I like squeezing in this particular spot, but probably not against a player of these stats/this type of player who opened UTG (I don't even use a HUD anymore, but whatever).

    We can just muck here, and I see the merit to that in that we're out of position against a range that we're ok against, but in a spot where we aren't winning much when we're ahead but can lose a lot when we're behind. I'm not going to lie, I never fold here (except against the biggest of nits, which I don't really see anymore in my 6max games), but I do see the merits of folding.

    I like the call, but I can be convinced otherwise.
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    OK so:

    1) I should have just 3bet AI on the flop.

    2) This is too marginal to matter.

    3) I feel I can cbet selectivly enough to have an edge on his blinds so I like to raise here.
    I'm still stuck between pushing and reraising to $250.

    4) This one just sucks. I shouldn't have even posted it.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_fish
    I don't like playing weak aces, I'd rather steal with K7s or something.
    I steal with both.

    Ax performs well when blind steals get checked down. K7s hits more flops in better ways.
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    4) This one just sucks. I shouldn't have even posted it.
    tell us you hit running A's or something, because it's so painfully clear that you're murdered in this hand. It's possible you could be splitting, though.
  10. #10
    lol I wish.

    UTG flips JJ. gg nh ul

    Really this was a semi-tilted, "Grrr... I f**kin hate short stacks.. FU I'm all-in" push. When I played this hand I was at the bottom of a 5k hand $4200 downswing. Thankfully one allnighter later and I've clawed back 3 grand.

    Oh and I got to feature in a tuff_fish video. I tried to get him to say "FTR is the nuts" on his video but I dunno if he did. I deffinitly got some sort of a shout out, we were doing imitations of him in the chat box: "GGAAAAAWWWWDDD DDDAAAMMMNNNIT, I'M GOING ALL IN!!!!!!"
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    OK so:

    1) I should have just 3bet AI on the flop.
    I still dont know about this, what hands is he open limping with UTG and then calling a raise? Of those hands, what do we beat?
  12. #12
    fold flop?

    no sarcasm
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    fold flop?

    no sarcasm
    In all honesty, I dont really know. What sort of hands do you think he would openlimp here? He isnt so loose that he will limp absolute junk, but he is also agressive enough to be raising PPs, so Im not too worried about a set. I think he could be doing this with a connecter, suited or not, and that would make the most sense to me. So 87, 56, 45 are all in his range, maybe 32 but doubtful. Anyways preflop he could have a somewhat wide range but the limp/call of a raise narrows that way down and the flop checkraise makes it even narrower and I cant put him on a single hand that we beat. I dont know if I could bring myself to fold the flop, but I dont think it would be bad at all. On the turn Id probably check behind and hopefully get to showdown cheap, I dont know if Id put anymore money in.
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    I atually think you're right. Basically I don't see him limping 77-99 pf enough. I should have dropped this when he reraised the flop.

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