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  1. #1

    Default Getting Value 25NL

    How was this? Could I have got more value by raising less or just calling the turn.
    No reads as this is Villans first hand at the table.

    Stage #761412433: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2007-09-13 18:14:00 (ET)
    Table: CANTERBURY DR (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
    Seat 3 - CRAZYSAMSON ($22.45 in chips)
    Seat 4 - NLIAW ($19.75 in chips)
    Seat 5 - CASHCOW24 ($30 in chips)
    Seat 6 - BAMBI222 ($23.50 in chips)
    Seat 1 - TWOKICKER ($41.55 in chips)
    Seat 2 - BOILERZ28 ($17.65 in chips)
    NLIAW - Posts small blind $0.10
    CASHCOW24 - Posts big blind $0.25
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to TWOKICKER [7c 7s]
    BAMBI222 - Folds
    TWOKICKER - Raises $0.75 to $0.75
    BOILERZ28 - Folds
    CRAZYSAMSON - Folds
    NLIAW - Folds
    CASHCOW24 - Calls $0.50
    *** FLOP *** [As 7d 9c]
    CASHCOW24 - Checks
    TWOKICKER - Bets $1.25
    CASHCOW24 - Calls $1.25
    *** TURN *** [As 7d 9c] [Kh]
    CASHCOW24 - Checks
    TWOKICKER - Bets $2.75
    CASHCOW24 - Raises $6.25 to $6.25
    TWOKICKER - Raises $21 to $23.75
    CASHCOW24 - Folds
    TWOKICKER - returned ($17.50) : not called

    This is a general problem I've been having with my big hands, I play an aggressive game and I often find myself thinking I've scared an opp off a hand when I could have got more value.
  2. #2
    call and call a river shove or shove the river yourself if he checks/bets small.
  3. #3
    Agreed.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    call and call a river shove or shove the river yourself if he checks/bets small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    call and call a river shove or shove the river yourself if he checks/bets small.
    Exactly. You are in position so do what Spenda said.
  6. #6
    the problem with pushing the turn is the board is dry so you can't rep a draw, and you don't need to protect.
    you might as well let him think his 2pr or whatever is good and call the turn.
  7. #7

    Default Re: Getting Value 25NL

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoKicker
    How was this? Could I have got more value by raising less or just calling the turn.
    No reads as this is Villans first hand at the table.

    Stage #761412433: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2007-09-13 18:14:00 (ET)
    Table: CANTERBURY DR (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
    Seat 3 - CRAZYSAMSON ($22.45 in chips)
    Seat 4 - NLIAW ($19.75 in chips)
    Seat 5 - CASHCOW24 ($30 in chips)
    Seat 6 - BAMBI222 ($23.50 in chips)
    Seat 1 - TWOKICKER ($41.55 in chips)
    Seat 2 - BOILERZ28 ($17.65 in chips)
    NLIAW - Posts small blind $0.10
    CASHCOW24 - Posts big blind $0.25
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to TWOKICKER [7c 7s]
    BAMBI222 - Folds
    TWOKICKER - Raises $0.75 to $0.75
    BOILERZ28 - Folds
    CRAZYSAMSON - Folds
    NLIAW - Folds
    CASHCOW24 - Calls $0.50
    *** FLOP *** [As 7d 9c]
    CASHCOW24 - Checks
    TWOKICKER - Bets $1.25
    CASHCOW24 - Calls $1.25
    *** TURN *** [As 7d 9c] [Kh]
    CASHCOW24 - Checks
    TWOKICKER - Bets $2.75
    CASHCOW24 - Raises $6.25 to $6.25
    TWOKICKER - Raises $21 to $23.75
    CASHCOW24 - All-In $16.50
    ***RIVER*** [As 7d 9c Kh][2s]
    ***SHOW DOWN***
    CASHCOW24 - Shows [9d 9s] (Three of a kind, nines)
    TWOKICKER - Shows [7c 7s] (Three of a kind, sevens)
    CASHCOW24 Collects $57.25 from main pot
    I think you can fold to the turn check-raise. If he had two pair he'd probably raise the flop to protect his hand. I put him squarely on 99.

    (don't post results)

    I think calling the turn might be a little better but you really played it fine and I'd expect you to get called here the vast majority of the time.
  8. #8
    and mcatdog pwns. i agree though...theres not much difference with calling vs raising the turn since villain reps 2pr+ and prob isnt bluffing.
  9. #9
    Don't fold sets

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