Help me with this hand

Villain is capable of bluffing, tricky aggressive

***** Hand History for Game 3483521272 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, February 02, 19:37:26 EDT 2006
Table Table 67941 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Chip_Remover ( $359.01 )
Seat 4: Evil_Ecstasy ( $342.10 )
Seat 6: galactical ( $200 )
Seat 3: stcalho ( $99.75 )
Seat 5: FDB51 ( $197 )
Seat 1: JKT123 ( $0 )
stcalho posts small blind [$1].
Evil_Ecstasy posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Evil_Ecstasy [ Ah Ad ]
JKT123 has joined the table.
FDB51 folds.
galactical folds.
Chip_Remover raises [$6].
stcalho folds.
Evil_Ecstasy raises [$13].
Chip_Remover calls [$9].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Jd, 9c ]
>You have options at Table 73926 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
Evil_Ecstasy bets [$25].
Chip_Remover calls [$25].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
Evil_Ecstasy bets [$65].
Chip_Remover calls [$65].
>You have options at Table 73926 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
Evil_Ecstasy bets [$100].
Chip_Remover is all-In [$254.01]
Evil_Ecstasy is all-In [$137.10]
>You have options at Table 73926 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.

If he's a tricky player then I think that he could easily be repping the flush.

However, if he knows that you know that he's a tricky player.... he could fake rep the flush and get you to pay him off everytime.

Well, even though I'd say he more likely than not has the flush, you gotta call him at the end after betting 100 with the size of the pot and his trickiness. I'm not sure if there's any other line at the river that could work better than the one you took (~1/2 pot sized bet). If you bet less (say 50-75), you give yourself a better chance to get away from the hand and have a greater chance of inducing a bluff, but would otherwise accomplish pretty much the same as betting 100 but losing out on value if he has a medium pair and making it tougher for you to call if he pushes. You could also push or bet 2/3-3/4 of the pot here and hope the other guy puts you on a bluff and calls with a medium pair, which I think is a reasonable line except that sometimes you're going to be donating your push to the made flush and you can't snap off his bluffs if he's on a busted draw or small pair.

Of course, you could always check the river, and then see what he does, but then he can put you to a REALLY tough decision by pushing since the pot is so big and you've shown weakness by checking. If you don't want to go broke in this hand though this is the best option as it gives you the easiest chance to lay down if your read is that you're beat. Another advantage to checking is that you can get a better read on him by his betting amount, whereas if you bet into him he can only push so you don't learn anything from the betsize.

All things considered though, I think your hand is too good and the pot too big to get away from this on the river against someone who would likely bluff in this spot. I think my preferred way to play here is to check and call whatever he bets, with betting 1/2 the pot and pushing closely behind.

Your PFR is horrible, you could almost turn your AA upside down and show him the cards. cold-call or raise bigger, if you havent 3-bet PF earlier just call. I would try to keep this pot smaller OOP, also called pot control (in which I suck). Since he can be pretty sure you have AA/KK by turn, I wouldnt be surprised to see 99/JJ here, naturally a flush is possible because the implied odds are there.

Turn is tricky, super draw heavy board and I understand your betting. I would like to hear some other thoughts how to keep this pot under control. At least dont reveal your cards PF.

ive played alot with that guy (i happen to be on that table at the time), and he doesn't bluff much without the goods on the river. he will if he reads weakness, but i think he knows you aren't acting weak and that he doesn't have much folding equity against your $100 river bet.

he will pay you off with top pair, though, so i prefer valuebetting him with good hands instead of trying to pick off his bluffs. along the same lines, he is pretty loose preflop and you should raise more vs him because he will call with most hands that he raised with.

Originally Posted by Pingviini

I would try to keep this pot smaller OOP, also called pot control (in which I suck).

I agree with Ping as a rule of thumb for this situation, keep the pot small, especially after the smooth call paired board turn. You obviously have to lead out on the flop with your overpair. Aren't there much better places to put in $100 than aagainst a flush AND paired board, while out OOP no less? If you really think you're ahead there after that turn smooth call, just check/call a reasonable bet on the river (i.e. don't call push). I feel beat there.

a) re-raise preflop is terrible, if you are going to flip your cards up, atleast do it in a fashion that gets way more money in the pot, and gives him worse odds.
b) I don't care how good he is, if he calls you down to the river and pushes on the river he almost always has your aces beat, especially in a 160bb situation. Checking the river or turn here to keep the pot in control isn't a bad idea.

You can try to justify calling ebcause of his trickiness but really it just comes down to that people don't make river raises deep stacked without having you beat. The fact that you posted the hand only further proves that.

Originally Posted by Bmxicle

a) re-raise preflop is terrible, if you are going to flip your cards up, atleast do it in a fashion that gets way more money in the pot, and gives him worse odds.

Is the reraise so terrible if he re-raises a large range from BB? (Any A, any pair, some random suited stuff for giggles)

I am very said when he flat calls the turn. Would he have to have JX clubs to make these calls? He doesn't really have the implied odds to call the turn... unless he's sure you'll pay him off (which you did).

Give gabe said that he is very loose preflop - you cannot rule out him having a 4 here either.

River sucks. BOOPS. (Being Out Of Position Sucks)

If he re-raises a large range out of the BB then yeah its not nearly as bad, but i know that he doesn't cause i remember argueing with him about it a while back =).