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    Default help me learn when to value bet...

    villain is oop and slpp...but once he calls the bet on the flop, i wonder if 2nd pair mid kicker is good. i put him on a draw, but dont i have to respect the Kx, QJ-KQ when he calls? with a very small pfr, i think he open-limps unless he holds AQ+ and TT+.

    when the river completes the draw, should i value bet if checked to? or did i do the right thing in respecting the K? against the villain, i am guessing there is not a lot of fold equity in this river...granted, if i get bet iinto small on the river, i am not folding here, either.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB ($31.30)
    UTG ($13.75)
    MP ($5.85)
    Hero ($13.80)
    Button ($8.05)
    SB ($9.90)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T, Q.
    1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, MP calls $0.30.

    Flop: ($0.95) 5, K, Q (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $0.8, MP calls $0.80.

    Turn: ($2.55) 7 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($2.55) 6 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero checks.

    Final Pot: $2.55
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    Fire a second barrel after he checks the turn.
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    chop,

    This is absolutely fine. Sometimes I check the flop behind instead and bet a blank turn. Depends on how much a calling station opponent is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Fire a second barrel after he checks the turn.
    ive read a lot of your advice to others and cant help asking...

    what is your AF? it must be high. i dont disagree with the advice here, but it seems you wouldnt fear firing a 3rd barrel into a pseudo-blank river, either?

    i guess you are saying i left a bit of value on the table? or are you pushing the opponent off the pot with your turn bet? or are you just curious as to where you stand?
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    robt,

    i think this is the answer i want to hear, and i'm glad to see there may not be shame in the way i played it.
    LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

    Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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    I like a turn bet at this level. A lot of draws + worse hands call a turn bet, but fold to a river bet.

    A lot of the value I get out of checking this turn to induce a bluff isn't there in your game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I like a turn bet at this level. A lot of draws + worse hands call a turn bet, but fold to a river bet.

    A lot of the value I get out of checking this turn to induce a bluff isn't there in your game.
    at what level would you expect to start gaining value by "inducing"?...

    ...inducing bluffs....not labor (no value in that )
    LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

    Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

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