Help Needed! : Variance or spewage?!!! 8 hands 100NL

Warning : Very long post (and beware...one bad beat involved) Only read if you're bored! This post is just as much for me to force me to re-analyze these hands . Sorry about the non-conversion but no converter for B2b I tried to bold the important stuff to make it easier to read and include my thoughts.

Alright so I'm finishing up my last B2B bonus and playing under my roll just to finish it up and move back to party. All is going well until this session where I donk away buy-in after buy-in for one of my worst sessions ever. I'm extremely curious whether this was variance or me not giving ppl credit for hands and playing like a donk.

Here are some of the key hands from the session. As far as reads go, almost all those involved are SS Ninjas or Nits.

Hand 1
I think I played this fine...I didn't beat much on that river though except a float.

Game # 388706711 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Leon"

Players(max 6):
les45 (EUR 66.03 in seat 1)
Signor_H (EUR 73.50 in seat 2)
Ravageur5 (EUR 162.62 in seat 3)
Chaom1 (EUR 116.02 in seat 4)
gabriele27 (EUR 52.70 in seat 5)
AAnkka (EUR 81.40 in seat 6)

Dealer: Signor_H
Small Blind: Ravageur5 (0.50)
Big Blind: Chaom1 (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: Ac - Kc
gabriele27 Call (1.00)
AAnkka Fold
les45 Fold
Signor_H Fold
Ravageur5 Raise (4.75)
Chaom1 Fold
gabriele27 Call (4.25)

Flop 8d - 6d - Jh

Ravageur5 Bet (7.00)
gabriele27 Call (7.00)

Turn 8d - 6d - Jh - As

Ravageur5 Check
gabriele27 Check

River 8d - 6d - Jh - As - Td

Ravageur5 Check
gabriele27 Bet (12.00)
Ravageur5 Call (12.00)

gabriele27 shows: 6h - 6c (three of a kind, sixes)

Ravageur5 didn't show hand

gabriele27 wins: EUR 47.05 (with three of a kind, sixes)
Rake: EUR 1.20

Game ended 2006-07-29 18:13:24 GMT+01:00


Hand 2
Standard against the ninjas?

Game # 388706965 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Huerto"

Players(max 6):
Ravageur5 (EUR 94.10 in seat 1)
FarfarKurt (EUR 37.60 in seat 2)
baywhop1 (EUR 87.45 in seat 3)
Speeler (EUR 94.25 in seat 4)
Daszoeb (EUR 482.43 in seat 5)
Nessun0 (EUR 36.00 in seat 6)

Dealer: FarfarKurt
Small Blind: baywhop1 (0.50)
Big Blind: Speeler (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: Ah - Kh

Daszoeb Fold
Nessun0 Raise (2.00)
Ravageur5 Raise (7.00)
FarfarKurt All-In (37.60)
baywhop1 Fold
Speeler Fold
Nessun0 Fold
Ravageur5 Call (30.60)

Flop 3s - Ts - Jh
Turn 3s - Ts - Jh - 3c
River 3s - Ts - Jh - 3c - 8h

Ravageur5 shows: Ah - Kh (a pair of threes)
FarfarKurt shows: Qc - Qh (two pairs, queens and threes)

FarfarKurt wins: EUR 75.70 (with two pairs, queens and threes)
Rake: EUR 3.00

Game ended 2006-07-29 18:03:33 GMT+01:00



Hand 3

Should've folded to the original Ninja's push...at least I got out of the way at the end. With that many ppl wanting to put money in the pot, all my aces and kings definitely aren't live.

Game # 388692917 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Montmell"

Players(max 6):
Stonesy (EUR 101.40 in seat 1)
FarfarKurt (EUR 69.47 in seat 2)
berbar (EUR 28.61 in seat 3)
martyna1 (EUR 244.92 in seat 4)
Ravageur5 (EUR 95.65 in seat 5)
cibol (EUR 111.25 in seat 6)

Dealer: cibol
Small Blind: Stonesy (0.50)
Big Blind: FarfarKurt (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: Kh - Ad
berbar Raise (3.25)
martyna1 Fold
Ravageur5 Raise (10.00)
cibol Call (10.00)
Stonesy Fold
FarfarKurt Fold
berbar All-In (25.36)
Ravageur5 Call (18.61)
cibol All-In (101.25)
Ravageur5 Fold
cibol Payback (82.64)

Flop 9d - 9s - Jc
Turn 9d - 9s - Jc - 6s
River 9d - 9s - Jc - 6s - 3h

berbar shows: Ac - Kc (a pair of nines)
cibol shows: Qs - Qh (two pairs, queens and nines)

cibol wins: EUR 84.33 (with two pairs, queens and nines)
Rake: EUR 3.00

Game ended 2006-07-29 17:47:40 GMT+01:00



Hand 4

Was working on my ability to fire a second bullet. BACKFIRE!!!

Game # 388671104 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Huerto"

Players(max 6):
Ravageur5 (EUR 98.50 in seat 1)
FarfarKurt (EUR 47.90 in seat 2)
clare3 (EUR 32.87 in seat 3)
Speeler (EUR 124.65 in seat 4)
Daszoeb (EUR 294.73 in seat 5)
dien (EUR 114.60 in seat 6)

Dealer: FarfarKurt
Small Blind: clare3 (0.50)
Big Blind: Speeler (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: Ks - Ad
Daszoeb Call (1.00)
dien Call (1.00)
Ravageur5 Raise (5.00)
FarfarKurt Fold
clare3 Call (4.50)
Speeler Fold
Daszoeb Call (4.00)
dien Fold

Flop 4h - Td - 3s

clare3 Check
Daszoeb Bet (5.00)
Ravageur5 Raise (20.00)
clare3 Fold
Daszoeb Call (15.00)

Turn 4h - Td - 3s - 7c
Daszoeb Check
Ravageur5 Bet (34.00)
Daszoeb All-In (269.73)
Ravageur5 Fold
Daszoeb Payback (235.73)

Daszoeb didn't show hand

Daszoeb wins: EUR 122.00
Rake: EUR 0.15

Game ended 2006-07-29 17:15:49 GMT+01:00


Hand 5

K this just fucking disgusted me. The guy said he was watching TV and didn't pay attention to what he was doing. Yeah right, he knew his overcard was good when I repped the nutz, why wouldn't it be?


Game # 388699178 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Huerto"

Players(max 6):
Ravageur5 (EUR 151.20 in seat 1)
FarfarKurt (EUR 30.00 in seat 2)
RiverFish (EUR 28.30 in seat 3)
Speeler (EUR 102.65 in seat 4)
Daszoeb (EUR 314.73 in seat 5)
Nessun0 (EUR 43.20 in seat 6)

Dealer: Nessun0
Small Blind: Ravageur5 (0.50)
Big Blind: FarfarKurt (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: Th - Tc

RiverFish Fold
Speeler Fold
Daszoeb Raise (2.00)
Nessun0 Call (2.00)
Ravageur5 Raise (6.50)
FarfarKurt Call (6.00)
Daszoeb Call (5.00)
Nessun0 Fold

Flop Ts - Kc - Qd

Ravageur5 Bet (14.00)
FarfarKurt Fold
Daszoeb Raise (50.00)
Ravageur5 All-In (130.20)
Daszoeb Call (94.20)

Turn Ts - Kc - Qd - 2s
River Ts - Kc - Qd - 2s - Jh

Ravageur5 shows: Th - Tc (three of a kind, tens)
Daszoeb shows: 8s - As (a straight, ace high)

Daszoeb wins: EUR 308.40 (with a straight, ace high)
Rake: EUR 1.85

Game ended 2006-07-29 17:53:33 GMT+01:00



Hand 6

This one is real interesting IMO...I really think I should've folded this river. At best I should have just called the river value bet. What calls my push? It's basically a freakin' bluff. Flush over flush heads up is teh gay tho.

Game # 388686256 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Montmell"

Players(max 6):
FarfarKurt (EUR 71.12 in seat 2)
martyna1 (EUR 129.20 in seat 4)
Ravageur5 (EUR 118.77 in seat 5)

Dealer: FarfarKurt
Small Blind: martyna1 (0.50)
Big Blind: Ravageur5 (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: Th - 7h

FarfarKurt Fold
martyna1 Raise (2.20)
Ravageur5 Call (1.70)

Flop 3h - Ks - 6h

martyna1 Bet (3.00)
Ravageur5 Raise (9.25)
martyna1 Call (6.25)

Turn 3h - Ks - 6h - Qh

martyna1 Check
Ravageur5 Bet (17.00)
martyna1 Raise (34.00)
Ravageur5 Call (17.00)

River 3h - Ks - 6h - Qh - Js

martyna1 Bet (35.00)
Ravageur5 All-In (72.82)
martyna1 Call (37.82)

Ravageur5 shows: Th - 7h (a flush, queen high)
martyna1 shows: Kh - Ah (a flush, ace high)

martyna1 wins: EUR 236.79 (with a flush, ace high)
Rake: EUR 0.50

Game ended 2006-07-29 17:37:11 GMT+01:00


Hand 7

Another interesting one. I think a lot of people slow down here after villain's immediate smooth calls...but.....I dunno....maybe I played this like a donk. Thoughts? Also...I don't think check/folding the river is an option, so I just pushed so that I didn't give myself a tough decision which may put me in a position of folding the best hand. Is that stupid?

Game # 388715192 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Leon"

Players(max 6):
les45 (EUR 56.58 in seat 1)
Signor_H (EUR 70.90 in seat 2)
Ravageur5 (EUR 149.87 in seat 3)
Chaom1 (EUR 118.97 in seat 4)
gabriele27 (EUR 82.15 in seat 5)
AAnkka (EUR 68.30 in seat 6)

Dealer: les45
Small Blind: Signor_H (0.50)
Big Blind: Ravageur5 (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: 8c - 8d
Chaom1 Fold
gabriele27 Call (1.00)
AAnkka Call (1.00)
les45 Fold
Signor_H Fold
Ravageur5 Raise (4.75)
gabriele27 Call (4.75)
AAnkka Fold

Flop 4h - 8h - 2h

Ravageur5 Bet (8.25)
gabriele27 Call (8.25)

Turn 4h - 8h - 2h - Kd

Ravageur5 Bet (24.00)
gabriele27 Call (24.00)

River 4h - 8h - 2h - Kd - 7c

Ravageur5 Bet (80.00)
gabriele27 All-In (44.15)
Ravageur5 Payback (35.85)

Ravageur5 shows: 8c - 8d (three of a kind, eights)
gabriele27 shows: Qh - Ah (a flush, ace high)

gabriele27 wins: EUR 162.80 (with a flush, ace high)
Rake: EUR 1.55

Game ended 2006-07-29 18:19:56 GMT+01:00


Hand 8

How bad is my check/call on the river here? Also I definitely should've pumped the pot on the turn a lot more. For some reason with his limp UTG I put him on AA and wasn't worried about the flush. BUt then again why wouldn't he want to get it in on the flop or turn. Hmm...I played this real bad I think.


Game # 388665911 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.50/1 - Table "Montmell"

Players(max 6):
Skogsberg (EUR 0.00 in seat 1)
FarfarKurt (EUR 47.80 in seat 2)
t0m (EUR 116.57 in seat 3)
martyna1 (EUR 113.05 in seat 4)
Ravageur5 (EUR 100.00 in seat 5)
Louise2006 (EUR 92.15 in seat 6)

Dealer: t0m
Small Blind: martyna1 (0.50)
Big Blind: Ravageur5 (1.00)

Ravageur5 was dealt: 3d - 3h
Louise2006 Call (1.00)
FarfarKurt Fold
t0m Fold
martyna1 Fold
Ravageur5 Check

Flop 2s - 3s - 5c

Ravageur5 Bet (2.10)
Louise2006 Raise (5.00)
Ravageur5 Raise (12.00)
Louise2006 Call (9.10)

Turn 2s - 3s - 5c - Kh

Ravageur5 Bet (21.00)
Louise2006 Call (21.00)

River 2s - 3s - 5c - Kh - 8s

Ravageur5 Check
Louise2006 All-In (56.05)
Ravageur5 Call (56.05)

Louise2006 shows: Ks - Qs (a flush, king high)

Ravageur5 didn't show hand

Louise2006 wins: EUR 182.80 (with a flush, king high)
Rake: EUR 0.50

Game ended 2006-07-29 17:03:24 GMT+01:00



Any thoughts would be appreciated. I think I played some of these hands well, and some hands so-so and maybe two of these horrible. Yes/No?

Oh btw, I ran at 29/18 for this session (standard for me, maybe a bit more active than usual) for a nice little -29 BB/100 hands! lol. I am teh shark.

U ran bad

that is pretty much all... I see some minor details.

Hand 1 : nh
EDIT : I change it to vnh... this is a must call river only because from villain's perspective you could be holding virtually nothing on river, have displayed extreme weakness and the board is very scary. Unless he is completely incapable of taking a stab at a pot, this call wins money a tremendous amount of the time

Hand 2 : standard

Hand 3 : IMO calling the reriase to 25€ is bad as you'll likely be up against smaller pairs and will miss your flop. Push over the top or fold now rather than later. But u prob right bout some of your outs being dead... A push is not terrible with all the money in the pot though. Calling sux after other dood displays huge strength.

Hand 4 : I love second bullets in general on B 2 B with all the passive-weak floaters but here I dont because villain called a sizeable reraise on extremely dry board. Maybe your read is he's a total donk who calls everything on the flop. If not his likely holdings are a set and 56s which are both never ever gonna fold. Turn either made his hand or didn't do anything to scare him that's for sure. After he calls the reriase I'd like to think I'd slow down on turn (I'd prob fire a donk 2nd bullet myself lol). I think this is the only really bad hand here.

Hand 5 : eww oh well ship it most of the time.

Hand 6 : hard to decide how much to reraise preflop when multi tabling but imo you def did not reraise enough here. there it 5.5€ in pot and you make it 6 to go. Both ppl are now having to call 4 to s ee a 12€ pot getting 3-1. Giving them 2-1 is preferable (point of the 3x their raise typically which doesn't work here because of the call, the minraise factor and the blinds).

+ you want to get HU w 10 10

Hand 6 : folding the river is a losing play over time. HU ppl will often do this with a set/2 pair (lame min raise etc). At VERY LEAST you have to call the river bet. I don't mind how you played it unless you have read that villiain minraise turn means stone-cold nuts.

Hand 7 : vnh EXCEPT river. Not wanting to get bet off best hand happens when u run bad but here we are leading lots of things (A of flush draw or K of flush draw) that will have a tough time calling a river bet but will often bluff when check to. I prefer check-call (and call any bet of course, even a push). Your hand is almost certainly good don't worry bout putting everybody on the nuts all the time cuz you're running bad.

Hand 8 : I like to raise preflop to take control and define villain's hand (and take the chance of winning a small pot).

As is villain needs either a huge draw,a surprising str8, a set of his own or a smallish overpair. Only the last one folds to a push and only the huge draw do we want to milk (cuz his overs are dead obv). I'm torn between jamming after his reraise and making a bigger rereraise on flop. As played I like coming over the top for more like 17€ (look at pot size) on the flop.

Overall : stop running bad wtf is wrong you.

Hand 1: Bet turn, call river as played.

Hand 2: Read dependant, usually I call but if he was tight solid I'd fold.

Hand 3: Looks good.

Hand 4: Fold the flop.

Hand 5: Uhh standard.

Hand 6: Standard.

Hand 7: Well played, standard.

Hand 8: Read dependant, looks like a river fold though. Reraise bigger on flop.

Thanks for checking them out, it's appreciated and points are noted.