how bad is this river c/r bluff?

I think it might be bad since even though the river bet left a lot behind, he must have a decent hand to bet with. i just figured it prob wasn't a flush, and really didn't want to call and lose to AK or something.
or do you think it actually a decent play to try to get the same hand or 2pr to fold?

reads--
i don't know a lot about villain, except he hasn't done anything weird, is a 25/15 multitabler, and insta called the turn (that's why i didn't think flush).
i've been mostly nitty/tag.

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2./$4.
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $1022.90
CO: $180.40
Button: $453.15
SB: $261
BB: $413.70

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A Q
Hero raises to $14, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4 A J ($34, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero calls.

Turn: 8 ($86, 2 players)
Hero bets $50, Button calls.

River: 2 ($186, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $95, Hero raises all-in $932.9
$268 to call

interesting...

if you dont know alot about villian, wouldnt you want to play the hand in a really straightforward way (like by betting the flop?)

i thought to check the flop since i was starting to pfr and c-bet more lately so concerned a little of getting bluff raised or something, and it seems to induce bluffs often.
and i like it if ppl know i check good hands after pfr sometimes (3 ppl were regulars including the villain).
also i experiment more if i've been running good lately...

anyway do you mean you wouldn't do this without knowing more of villain?

I'm not disagreeing that he might not have a flush here, but I guess I don't get the point.

What worse hands are gonna call your push?

(none.. but thats fine since you're not pushing here for value I wouldn't think)

but what BETTER hands are folding your push? Are you trying to get a possible two pair to fold here? Cause if not, your hand has showdown value. If you don't think he has the flush, why not just check-call?

love it

Don't you have enough showdown value to do this.
I like it more with air.

Originally Posted by minSim

Don't you have enough showdown value to do this.
I like it more with air.

Nope, he pretty much never has the best hand here.

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Originally Posted by minSim

Don't you have enough showdown value to do this.
I like it more with air.

Nope, he pretty much never has the best hand here.

Based on what fact? The fact that villain is somewhat value betting this river on a scary board, instead of checking through?

reads on villain would help narrow his range for betting this river, thats for sure!

the guy could have KdQ or KdT, but what else is pure bluff

Originally Posted by gabe

if you dont know alot about villian, wouldnt you want to play the hand in a really straightforward way (like by betting the flop?)

But this also implies that villain doesn't know a lot about him, which makes this a flush a ton in opps opinion.

nah, dont assume villian is as smart as us

thanks for the thoughts so far. c/r on the river as a bluff is a relatively new strategy for me so i appreciate any ideas on important aspects/times to do it.

so if we assume villain has at least AQ here, but prob not a flush, and is capable of making reads/laydowns, does anybody else think it's a good idea to try and get him to fold?

or lets say you are the villain, does my line look too weird for a flush?

I would think that a c/r river bluff would work better if you set it up with a c/r for value on the river.... question is, is he making "hero" calls with 2p/sets.