How horrible is flatting a 4b here?

I've been 3bing villain a lot the last like 35 hands maybe like 5 times
he's a 17/17 over that sample and he's called every single one
showed up with crap like 97s IP
probably a bad time to 3b regardless? or should I 3b and then just fold to a 4b?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($291)
CO ($200)
Button ($200)
Hero (SB) ($217)
BB ($332.60)
UTG ($308.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K
3 folds, Button bets $6, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, Button raises to $49, Hero calls $27

3b is good, call is really bad, just fold

Our hand doesnt play well against his 4-bet. Especially since this is his first 4-bet and we dont know he is capable of 4-betting light.

uhhh OOP?

Originally Posted by iopq

probably a bad time to 3b regardless?

No this is a great time to 3bet if he just called five 3bets in the last thirty-five hands.

3 vet is fine, flatting will just get you in trouble.

i cant even think of the faintest glimmer of a piece of logic that would tell you to flat a 4bet OOP w/ KQo vs a villain that has called 5 3bets vs you in 35 hands. help me out.

3bet is wtf standard given villain but just fold and wait for another spot.

idk, after he calls 5 3bets i dont mind mixing it up with flatting pre

its like ure asking him to start 4betting

Originally Posted by Alexos

idk, after he calls 5 3bets i dont mind mixing it up with flatting pre

its like ure asking him to start 4betting

yeah, that would be good logic not to 3b way too much

I think a call here is bad too anyway

It depends on his adjustment. If he starts 4 betting more I dont like 3-betting this light, but he starts calling a lot of 3-bets I like to push our value- if that makes sense.

Originally Posted by iopq

I think a call here is bad too anyway

how, pray tell, did you come to this stunning revelation?

your fold button should be somewhere near your call and raise buttons. press it next time

As said 3bet is good obv. in a normal situation. But I think Alexos means you'd better 3bet your strong hands/weak hands to make your decision easier when he'll start 4betting (which he should considering 35 hands so far) and dont have hands like KQ in your range and flat those pf if you cant/wont fold to the 4bet.

KQo is prob one of the worst/most dominated hands you can call with in this spot. IFFF you insist on calling a small 4bet OOP then I'd rather have 9Tss or something.

Originally Posted by griffey24

KQo is prob one of the worst/most dominated hands you can call with in this spot. IFFF you insist on calling a small 4bet OOP then I'd rather have 9Tss or something.

thats pretty IFFFY

Big IFFFFF yes...

morale of the story: fold preflop to 4bets OOP

Given the history you described, I'd probably shove, but I think it's close between shoving and folding, with calling waaay worse than both.

I think he's about to start 4-bet bluffing like Alexos said, and KQ has pretty good equity against his stack-off range, looks like a good spot for a light 5-bet.