How are my lines

1) Villain is 62/11/2, not much else on him. For some reason, I feel I butchered this play up pretty badly. I had been pretty Laggy at the table, and I think I've had one of my c-bets picked off postflop somewhat, although, I still continue to fire away.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($353.03)
SB ($84.72)
BB ($93)
Hero ($176.40)
MP ($164.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, A. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, SB (poster) calls $7, 1 fold.

Flop: ($26) A, J, Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, Button calls $18, SB folds.

Turn: ($62) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $52.03, Hero calls $52.03.

River: ($166.06) T (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button raises to $80, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $286.06



2) Over the 50 Hands I got on this villain, he is a 33/2 preflop, standard postflop. Is betting the flop here better?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($339.09)
UTG ($318.10)
MP ($266.55)
Hero ($211.90)
Button ($183.20)
SB ($128.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J. UTG posts a blind of $2. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, Button raises to $18, 2 folds, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($39) 7, T, 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $22, Hero calls $22.

Turn: ($83) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $81, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $164


3) Meh, Villain is an idiot. I feel I could have played this better, probably just folded the turn. Something about his weak ass flop and turn bets though...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($142.18)
CO ($56.75)
Hero ($198)
SB ($198)
BB ($107)
UTG ($98.77)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, UTG calls $12, MP folds, CO calls $12.

Flop: ($47) K, A, T (3 players)
UTG checks, CO bets $11.7, Hero calls $11.70, UTG folds.

Turn: ($70.40) 2 (2 players)
CO bets $11.22, Hero calls $11.22.

River: ($92.84) 3 (2 players)
CO calls $19.83 (All-In), Hero calls $19.83.

Final Pot: $132.50

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i wouldnt bet river in hand 1, but maybe try to pick off a bluff from missed spades.

hand 3 is weird but i dont think you can fold anywhere...maybe raise the flop

Hand 1: You're trapping yourself in most of these games with that pre-flop raise. ATo telgraphed with an EP raise will win small lose big vs most of the field.
Hand 2: It's fine, I'd usually just fold the flop.
Hand 3: Sometimes weak is strong. Looks like a probe bet trying to trap a hand like yours.

jeff,

In hand 1 check/fold to any reasonable river bet.
In hand 2 your play is fine. Dont lead flop. If your stats were over a bigger sample size I would also check/fold flop.
In hand 3 is tough, if I was HU I would mostly raise his weak flop bet, but I think a flop fold is OK with UTG yet to act. Even though you are getting great odds on every streets I have a hard time calling with this board.

Originally Posted by Robert

Even though you are getting great odds on every streets I have a hard time calling with this board.

Show your math here. My numbers get us somewhere between close to -EV.

Jeff,

Thought about this a little more on the way to pick up caffeine

In NLHE there is more than one way to skin a cat. Some people use hyper-aggression to take away pots from weak players and induce mistakes and that works for them. I've switched to a tigher, pot-control, selective aggression game. Most of my opponents have some pretty terrible leaks including playing too many hands, running transparent lines, trapping themselves, etc. Rather than force mistakes I identify and destroy. That might not fly in some bigger games. For 100 and 200 nl, it works great and since making these adjustments I swing less and win more. When I compare my earlier 100 play to my newer 100 and 200 hands, I tend to be in way better spots when all of the money goes into the pot.

Food for thought...

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by Robert

Even though you are getting great odds on every streets I have a hard time calling with this board.

Show your math here. My numbers get us somewhere between close to -EV.

It was very very close, that I had to do on the fly, which I also wasn't expecting his donk bet.

Co has $43 in the hole and the pot is $47. Effectively you're looking at just under 9-1 (like perfect 8.7 if you wanted it lol). There is also a small chance villain here has a couple hearts, a T, and my hand is good. I've got 6 clear outs here, not including the backdoor draw. In LHE thats a good 7-7.5 outs that I would assume would be good here on the flop, especially with effective odds of 9-1 and pot odds of 4-1.

The Turn call is again, very very close because we're still getting like 9-1 here with that nasty bet. And the river could just as well been a missed heart draw. Turns out Villain had A9c and he backdoored his flush.

Jeff,

Thanks for doing the math for us math illiterate