Quote Originally Posted by will641
Quote Originally Posted by Kagey
Ashe is completely correct here if someone's range is AK+ QQ+ then all the situations are fold since this advice was given to a microstakes player, wether you can be that precise on this range is another question. However if the tone of the anguement stays the same I'll go and start reading 2+2. I can't honestly believe people who's opinion I respect continue to put up with this crap.
like i said, completely read dependent. yeah ash is right, if we are playing total nits, than he is right to fold most places. but i think hybrids point is that folding AK pre is usually a mistake. also i wouldnt consider 100nl microstakes.

also if you think 2p2 is better you are sorely mistaken. this kind of disrespectful arguing doesnt really happen that often here, but ppl at 2p2 do it constantly.
My point here is that folding is optimal sometimes, raising is optimal sometimes and flatting is optimal sometimes. But folding always or saying its the *standard* at micro doesn't help the op make a real time decision. OP needs to know why to do what and how to apply this information to other situations. And to argue that it is optimal to fold as a standard, then give math with stove without doing pot odds or FE makes no sense... this type of info does more hurt then good... So i called him retarded... Sorry for being a jerk... ok my apologize for attacking him personally.