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    Default I feel like this is kind of easy/standard

    Villain is Sekt1, i have little history with him i just know he's a reg. (note also that the table is 4-handed)

    He also bet the river relatively quickly (i'd say about 2 second wait time) especially considering i called the turn pretty fast.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($1156.10)
    BB ($1083)
    UTG ($1000)
    Hero ($1876.50)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 7.
    UTG raises to $30, Hero calls $30, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($75) 4, 2, Q (2 players)
    UTG bets $60, Hero calls $60.

    Turn: ($195) K (2 players)
    UTG bets $170, Hero calls $170.

    River: ($535) 2 (2 players)
    UTG bets $450, Hero calls $450.

    Final Pot: $1435
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    easy standard.... ummm... fold?

    I'd much prefer this if he was button and you were in the blinds, check/calling him down.

    Given that he's UTG, I'm not sure I like this that much.

    I'd also like this a lot more if the river was the third heart (him trying to bluff the heart) than the turn bringing the heart.
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    this is the easiest turn fold ever. think of your equity vs the equity of his range
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    Even if you had the seven of hearts, and even if you thought he was bluffing a gigantic amount (like you do now), the turn probably still is a fold.

    Of course, when you call the turn, folding the river is retarded, but its almost not even worth mentioning.
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    On an awesome note, there's a new EV calculator called pokerrazor which you can download here:

    http://www.pokerazor.com/software/download.xml

    It is set up extremely well and has a great interface, you create extremely large ranges quickly so it's great for postflop.

    Anyways, i did it for this hand giving Sekt1 a range of:

    QQ+, 44, 22, AhQc, AhQs, AK, AhJh, AhJc, AhJd, AhTh, AhTc, AhTd, Ah9h, Ah9c, Ah9d, Ah8h, Ah8c, Ah8d, Ah7h, Ah7c, Ah7d, Ah6h, Ah6c, Ah6d, Ah5h, Ah5c, Ah5d, Ah4h, Ah4s, Ah3h, Ah3c, Ah3d, Ah2c, Ah2d, KQ, Jh9h, JT, Jh8h, Th9h, Th8h, Th7h, 9h8h, 9h7h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 5h4h

    Cliffnotes: All reasonable pfr hands that made flushes, KQ, JT and all sets, AA, AK, all bare Ah.

    According to this program my equity on the turn is 23.1%. Now i definitely could be adding worse weaker hands to his range and also take away some bare Ah. But yeah so it's pretty bad.
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    Old HU hand from last July. I still remembered this one when I saw your hand. I was up 1.5 BI and tried to tilt villain by limping the button. This is horrible, but I learned my lesson:

    Table BB's HE, 16 Jul 2007 4:48 AM ET

    Seat 8: HERO [ 4S,4D ] ($2,420.00 in chips)
    Seat 10: BB ($1,199.00 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    HERO posts blind ($5), BB posts blind ($10).

    PRE-FLOP
    HERO calls $5, BB bets $35, HERO calls $35.

    FLOP [board cards 10H,2C,2H ]
    BB bets $80, HERO calls $80.

    TURN [board cards 10H,2C,2H,8D ]
    BB bets $180, HERO calls $180.

    RIVER [board cards 10H,2C,2H,8D,3D ]
    BB bets $650, HERO calls $650.

    SHOWDOWN
    BB shows [ QD,QH ]
    HERO mucks cards [ 4S,4D ]
    BB wins $1,909
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    i fold flop how sick is that
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  9. #9
    is raising the turn not better than folding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    this is the easiest turn fold ever. think of your equity vs the equity of his range
    QFT

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