I have odds to draw but fold anyway

Originally Posted by benny999

good point, didnt even really think about those hands when I posted.

I actually tanked on the flop then called. what would you do if the turn is a heart, the call station leads full pot and the tag calls again?

lol puke?

If you think the hand through I think this spot is either a clear push or a clear fold. You're not really worried about the donk (unless you've seem him make strong semi-bluffs OOP) so the big question is just how tricky the UTG player is.

If he's very straight-forward then I think it's a push. If he thinks a cpl levels deep then I think it's closer to a fold since he's likely to put you on a draw and feel very confident with you coming along for the ride.

I can remember folding a flush in this exact spot vs 2 villains but it was very very tough. In this particular hand, the complicated part is the donk-leader. If this player isn't a donk (and UTG is presumably aware of this) then it becomes an easier fold.

At this point though, I can understand both folding and raising. I think calling would be bad. The "optimistic" guess at UTG's hand would be KxQh. Donk is probably not folding so you can raise your flush and not be too worried about him (although like I mentioned before this only applies if you haven't seen him semi-bluff OOP which means his most likely holding are Kx, 2par, Q10 or set).

The big problem is UTG who imo either has the nut flush/Qh10h or KxQh/KJ playing conservitavely. I'd probably flip a coin, then push as I'm timing out regardless of the coinflip lol.