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  1. #1
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    Default I miss value here

    Opp is 40/16 over a sample that makes no difference, so take it opp is unknown.
    Our hand is well hidden, whats the optimal line versus a average/bad player who will stack off fairly light here?
    (btw this is not my favourite turn line here, so id be interested in turn lines also OOP)

    ** Game ID 1731537582 starting - 2007-11-22 22:14:08
    ** TB-Josset [ Hold 'em ] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

    - Ougab sitting in seat 1 with $176 .00
    - barrybj sitting in seat 2 with $561 .02 [ Dealer ]
    - Grimstad sitting in seat 3 with $34 .00
    - billb1956 sitting in seat 4 with $719 .42
    - Miffed sitting in seat 5 with $233 .50
    - mr_lucifer sitting in seat 6 with $39 .00

    Grimstad posted the small blind - $1.00
    billb1956 posted the big blind - $2.00
    ** Dealing card to Miffed: :Kc: :Jc:
    Miffed raised - $7.00
    mr_lucifer folded
    Ougab folded
    barrybj called - $7.00
    Grimstad folded
    billb1956 folded

    ** Dealing the flop:
    :Ac:
    Miffed bet - $14.00
    barrybj called - $14.00

    ** Dealing the turn:

    Miffed checked
    barrybj bet - $22.50
    Miffed called - $22.50

    ** Dealing the river:
    :Qc:
    miffed???? (pot is $90~ and i have $150 behind)
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    Against players I do not have reads on and/or are LP I like to bet.
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    i'd "block bet" the river for like $35. i'd like him to raise instead of call if he has a worse flush or 2 pair, and i don't want tpwk to fold or check behind.

    also, on the flop against an unknown who is likely just playing their hand, i would just bet $8-$10...i only bet pot if i have top pair. thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    70ish
    gabe how much worse is a c/r all in if i expect opp to bet here 70~% of the time?
    I think opp on prima doest want to fold too much here either no matter what he has.
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    he's not calling a c/r anyways so leading 3/4 is way better.
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    yea hes prob not calling a cr and hes prob not betting
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    go all in
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    i like benny's idea only if we know opp is aggro and thinking cuz he ll put us on something like AJ AT going for pot contol and blocking
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  10. #10
    I think I bet turn.
    Would you have called a larger turn bet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minSim
    I think I bet turn.
    Would you have called a larger turn bet?
    i might c/r all in a lot here with a range way ahead of my opp so turn is non standard here for me

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