well, i didn't want to segregate the PL because the PL tables at 25/25 hit $10-13 avg pots over there on 75% of the tables...$40 - $70 pots are not uncommon. So despite the lack of being able to get all in right from the go, they manage to get all in a lot...the pot avg. is much higher than 90% of the 25NL tables i've played at/seen (except late saturday nights - so it doesn't seem different than NL to me -