The importance of a good read (multiple hands inside)@3/6 NL

This is sort of my hand blog of various hands ive played at 3/6 NL that demonstrate and utilize the concept of a good read.. This is very important at 3/6 NL as camping doesnt get you very far anymore.

I will continue posting hands as I get them..

***** Hand History for Game 2306929075 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 03:10:19 EDT 2005
Table Table 36989 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: PitchWise ( $1002.1 )
Seat 2: LOLORIVEREDU ( $1006.65 )
Seat 3: huligan406 ( $585 )
Seat 4: DH1977 ( $836.6 )
Seat 6: maver_geek ( $903.25 )
Seat 7: StackHead ( $1679.65 )
Seat 8: Nike24 ( $805.2 )
Seat 9: Mr__Rake ( $659.55 )
Seat 10: EvilEcstasy_ ( $600 )
Seat 5: extraethan ( $745 )
Mr__Rake posts small blind [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ 5d 5h ]
PitchWise folds.
LOLORIVEREDU folds.
huligan406 folds.
DH1977 folds.
extraethan folds.
maver_geek folds.
StackHead raises [$24].
Nike24 folds.
Mr__Rake folds.
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$18].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, As, Jh ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
StackHead bets [$40].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$80].
StackHead folds.
EvilEcstasy_ does not show cards.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $168

Nice play man, I saw alot of those min-raise bluffs at 600nl it seems.

Another good one.. this guy tried to make a move on me and suffered the consequences heh

***** Hand History for Game 2309083879 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 15:52:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 36558 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: martin3d2000 ( $342.2 )
Seat 3: Skinny_rake ( $584.6 )
Seat 4: Lled65 ( $1030.9 )
Seat 5: BozoDunce ( $713.25 )
Seat 6: wtfsvi ( $527.55 )
Seat 8: Vivatma ( $1033.2 )
Seat 9: TheGodOfWar ( $641.85 )
Seat 10: roscoe19 ( $830.7 )
Seat 1: viktor939 ( $351 )
Seat 7: EvilEcstasy_ ( $603 )
EvilEcstasy_ posts small blind [$3].
TheGodOfWar posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Td Th ]
roscoe19 folds.
viktor939 folds.
martin3d2000 folds.
Skinny_rake folds.
Lled65 calls [$6].
BozoDunce folds.
wtfsvi calls [$6].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$9].
TheGodOfWar folds.
Lled65 calls [$6].
wtfsvi calls [$6].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 2h, 8c ]
>You have options at Table 36989 Table!.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$30].
Lled65 folds.
wtfsvi raises [$75].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$90].
wtfsvi folds.
EvilEcstasy_ does not show cards.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $234

***** Hand History for Game 2309662741 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 17:46:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 36558 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 4: Lled65 ( $958.67 )
Seat 7: EvilEcstasy_ ( $602.85 )
Seat 8: Vivatma ( $957.8 )
Seat 9: TheGodOfWar ( $759.7 )
Seat 10: milipa ( $116 )
Seat 1: gr0wl ( $70.58 )
Seat 3: JAMES_COOK ( $344.38 )
Seat 2: toledo123 ( $627 )
Seat 6: viktor939 ( $291 )
EvilEcstasy_ posts small blind [$3].
Vivatma posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ 4d 4s ]
TheGodOfWar folds.
milipa folds.
gr0wl folds.
toledo123 folds.
JAMES_COOK folds.
Lled65 folds.
Archie336 has joined the table.
viktor939 raises [$21].
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$18].
Vivatma folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Ah, 2d ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
viktor939 bets [$30].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$70].
viktor939 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ does not show cards.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $145

***** Hand History for Game 2309693968 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 17:52:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 36989 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: cdoor ( $1534.24 )
Seat 3: athemyaj ( $679.24 )
Seat 5: EvilEcstasy_ ( $1433.55 )
Seat 10: hembymetal ( $834.7 )
Seat 7: diman99 ( $71.5 )
Seat 1: sinkinriver ( $756.2 )
Seat 6: leonidas911 ( $714.35 )
Seat 4: toledo123 ( $547 )
Seat 8: portydoggy ( $588 )
toledo123 posts small blind [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ 6h 8h ]
leonidas911 folds.
diman99 calls [$6].
portydoggy folds.
hembymetal calls [$6].
sinkinriver raises [$12].
cdoor folds.
athemyaj folds.
viktor939 has joined the table.
toledo123 calls [$9].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$44].
diman99 folds.
hembymetal folds.
sinkinriver folds.
toledo123 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ 6h, 8h ] high card eight.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $86 from the main pot with high card eight.

***** Hand History for Game 2309712246 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 17:55:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 36558 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: Lled65 ( $934.67 )
Seat 7: EvilEcstasy_ ( $739.43 )
Seat 8: Vivatma ( $948.8 )
Seat 9: TheGodOfWar ( $750.7 )
Seat 10: milipa ( $101 )
Seat 3: JAMES_COOK ( $344.38 )
Seat 2: toledo123 ( $618 )
Seat 6: viktor939 ( $234 )
Seat 5: Archie336 ( $307.95 )
Seat 1: diman99 ( $382 )
viktor939 posts small blind [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ 4d 4s ]
Vivatma calls [$6].
TheGodOfWar folds.
milipa folds.
diman99 folds.
toledo123 folds.
JAMES_COOK folds.
Lled65 calls [$6].
Archie336 calls [$6].
viktor939 calls [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 6c, 4h ]
viktor939 checks.
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
>You have options at Table 36989 Table!.
Vivatma bets [$20].
Lled65 calls [$20].
Archie336 folds.
viktor939 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$55].
Vivatma calls [$35].
>You have options at Table 37043 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36989 Table!.
Lled65 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$150].
Vivatma calls [$150].
** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
EvilEcstasy_ is all-In [$528.43]
Vivatma calls [$528.43].
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ 4d, 4s ] three of a kind, fours.
Vivatma shows [ Ac, Jc ] a pair of aces.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $1513.86 from the main pot with three of a kind, fours.
>You have options at Table 36989 Table!.

Wow, super good read on the set hand.

Did you figure he would have most likely paired his K or Q on the turn and river or did you know he would think the monster overbet was a bluff?

I'd probably entertain the former and still value bet the river for 350.

-'rilla

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Wow, super good read on the set hand.

Did you figure he would have most likely paired his K or Q on the turn and river or did you know he would think the monster overbet was a bluff?

I'd probably entertain the former and still value bet the river for 350.

-'rilla

I thought he had hit two pair, possibily top two and didnt think he would lay that down. Turns out he just didnt believe me lol, his hand wasnt all that great. I think he just played it really poorly.

All together though, its amazing how hard the players at 3/6 are.. bmixcle was right lol! The insane amount of smart aggression that occurs is hard for me to deal with at times. I can see how you can go bust quick at this level.

This guy likes to chase.. his check on the flop told me he didnt have any made hands. When he called my turn bet I assumed he was on a draw. When all the draws missed, I bet and sure enough he folded.

***** Hand History for Game 2310821164 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 21:36:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 37088 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: wr9966 ( $313.85 )
Seat 6: C_MONEY4ME ( $244.85 )
Seat 9: EvilEcstasy_ ( $1239.65 )
Seat 10: one_beer ( $515.65 )
Seat 1: cyoo45 ( $409.5 )
Seat 8: clarkkent ( $253 )
Seat 4: milipa ( $120 )
Seat 2: maver_geek ( $287.75 )
Seat 3: MyNameIsBT ( $600 )
Seat 7: mmmarkus1 ( $608.1 )
cyoo45 posts small blind [$3].
maver_geek is sitting out.
milipa posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ 3c Tc ]
wr9966 folds.
C_MONEY4ME folds.
mmmarkus1 folds.
clarkkent folds.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$15].
one_beer calls [$15].
cyoo45 folds.
milipa folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 8d, 9d ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
one_beer checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$30].
one_beer calls [$30].
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$50].
one_beer folds.
EvilEcstasy_ does not show cards.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $146

I like that play against vivatma with the set, that guy is a really harsh calling station.

Originally Posted by Bmxicle

I like that play against vivatma with the set, that guy is a really harsh calling station.

Vivatma is probably the last fish left in a sea of sharks at 600 NL lol

I haven't been there in a while, but once in a while you run into a few gems that donate a couple grand to the table.

Originally Posted by Bmxicle

I haven't been there in a while, but once in a while you run into a few gems that donate a couple grand to the table.

Its gotten a lot nastier recently. All the sharks at 400 nl have moved up to new higher stakes lol

Here's another one.. guy tried to bluff to no avail..

***** Hand History for Game 2311082023 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 22:30:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 37043 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: PitchWise ( $544.91 )
Seat 10: holdingitdwn ( $633.75 )
Seat 5: Mr__Rake ( $1294.3 )
Seat 9: EvilEcstasy_ ( $547 )
Seat 3: StopDrpnRoll ( $1547.6 )
Seat 7: milipa ( $133 )
Seat 8: leonidas911 ( $750.45 )
Seat 4: viktor939 ( $340.1 )
Seat 2: mad_marvin ( $300 )
Seat 1: ElGato22 ( $419 )
ElGato22 posts small blind [$3].
mad_marvin posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ 8s 8d ]
viktor939 folds.
Mr__Rake folds.
PitchWise raises [$18].
milipa folds.
leonidas911 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$18].
holdingitdwn folds.
ElGato22 calls [$15].
mad_marvin folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 5s, 7d ]
ElGato22 checks.
PitchWise checks.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$35].
ElGato22 folds.
PitchWise calls [$35].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
PitchWise checks.
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
PitchWise bets [$50].
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$50].
PitchWise shows [ 6d, 9d ] a pair of sixes.
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ 8s, 8d ] a pair of eights.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $227 from the main pot with a pair of eights.

A good example of when to slow play.. once the guy had the FH of Aces full of 2s he couldnt lay his hand down, and my A6 FH was pretty much invincible from the start..

Also note the small "token" bet on the turn to induce a raise from Thinkin

***** Hand History for Game 2322370456 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, July 06, 23:51:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 37043 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: rvguy2512 ( $530.6 )
Seat 3: mcummings805 ( $186 )
Seat 4: badcall75 ( $760.45 )
Seat 5: StackHead ( $586.65 )
Seat 6: Mr__Rake ( $595.95 )
Seat 7: extraethan ( $949.15 )
Seat 8: the_bigslick ( $550.95 )
Seat 9: olGirlington ( $597.15 )
Seat 10: Thinkin ( $506.1 )
Seat 1: EvilEcstasy_ ( $600 )
Thinkin posts small blind [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ As 6c ]
rvguy2512 folds.
mcummings805 folds.
badcall75 calls [$6].
StackHead folds.
Mr__Rake folds.
extraethan folds.
the_bigslick folds.
olGirlington folds.
Thinkin calls [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Ad, Ah ]
Thinkin checks.
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
badcall75 bets [$20].
Thinkin calls [$20].
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$20].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
Thinkin checks.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$30].
badcall75 folds.
Thinkin raises [$60].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$100].
Thinkin raises [$140].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$140].
Thinkin calls [$70].
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
Thinkin checks.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$250].
Thinkin is all-In [$210.1]
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ As, 6c ] a full house, Aces full of sixes.
Thinkin doesn't show [ Ac, 2h ] a full house, Aces full of twos.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $39.9 from side pot #1 with a full house, Aces full of sixes.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $1035.2 from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of sixes.

Repping the high pocket pair, even when called is important. You just have to bully the lower pocket pair out, and they will fold eventually.

Of course, it helped I had a tight straight image at this point.

***** Hand History for Game 2322926309 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Thursday, July 07, 01:22:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 36558 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Raging__Bull ( $1017.35 )
Seat 3: olGirlington ( $1018.3 )
Seat 4: StackHead ( $581.5 )
Seat 7: idioto ( $623.25 )
Seat 9: EvilEcstasy_ ( $700.8 )
Seat 6: TunaMonkey ( $600 )
Seat 2: tbird5 ( $402.7 )
Seat 10: frege ( $181 )
Seat 5: sickboy ( $600 )
Seat 8: pbyun ( $315.6 )
olGirlington posts small blind [$3].
StackHead posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Js Ad ]
sickboy calls [$6].
TunaMonkey folds.
idioto folds.
pbyun folds.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$20].
frege folds.
Raging__Bull folds.
tbird5 folds.
olGirlington folds.
StackHead calls [$14].
sickboy calls [$14].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 8c, 3c ]
StackHead checks.
sickboy checks.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$45].
StackHead folds.
sickboy calls [$45].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
sickboy checks.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$125].
sickboy folds.
EvilEcstasy_ does not show cards.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $275

This hand illustrates why you have to make people pay to draw, sometimes by ridiciously overbetting the pot.. this guy was willing to dump his whole stack in on crappy odds (75-25 in my favor to be exact) on the turn just for the chance of hitting that ace high flush!

***** Hand History for Game 2326398812 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Thursday, July 07, 20:03:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 37141 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Mr__Rake ( $715.9 )
Seat 5: ElGato22 ( $388 )
Seat 6: rwillww ( $427 )
Seat 10: crossbow01 ( $1416.6 )
Seat 4: Kingfish__ ( $667.65 )
Seat 2: Bimmerguy323 ( $776.95 )
Seat 7: RErbBK ( $631.05 )
Seat 8: pilotdex ( $294 )
Seat 3: emmadoll ( $485 )
Seat 9: hannaj1 ( $125 )
ElGato22 posts small blind [$3].
rwillww posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kingfish__ [ Tc Td ]
RErbBK folds.
pilotdex folds.
crossbow01 folds.
Mr__Rake calls [$6].
Bimmerguy323 folds.
emmadoll folds.
Kingfish__ raises [$22].
ElGato22 calls [$19].
rwillww folds.
Mr__Rake folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 3s, Qs ]
ElGato22 checks.
Kingfish__ bets [$45].
ElGato22 calls [$45].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
ElGato22 checks.
Kingfish__ is all-In [$600.65]
ElGato22 is all-In [$321]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
ElGato22 shows [ As, Kh ] a pair of eights.
Kingfish__ shows [ Tc, Td ] a full house, Tens full of eights.
Kingfish__ wins $279.65 from side pot #1 with a full house, Tens full of eights.
Kingfish__ wins $785 from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of eights.

wow, suddenly my 600 nl table has turned into the 25 nl tables lol. Check it out.. looks like a bunch of fishies have joined the fray

I have never seen someone overplay their top pair so much on a PAIRED board lol.. espically when I was IN THE BLINDS rofl.. hmm PROLLY GOT A 4 if im IN THE BLINDS lol

***** Hand History for Game 2326834300 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Thursday, July 07, 21:19:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 37043 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: willbos ( $555.45 )
Seat 2: onetoba ( $651.95 )
Seat 3: RErbBK ( $712 )
Seat 4: McGee ( $788.55 )
Seat 5: Bimmerguy323 ( $598.5 )
Seat 6: EvilEcstasy_ ( $600 )
Seat 7: Chelios09 ( $1297.12 )
Seat 8: smilelarge ( $1221.37 )
Seat 9: wemerr ( $594 )
Seat 10: Mr__Rake ( $1512.56 )
Bimmerguy323 posts small blind [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Ah 4s ]
Chelios09 calls [$6].
smilelarge folds.
wemerr folds.
Mr__Rake calls [$6].
willbos calls [$6].
onetoba folds.
McGee calls [$6].
Bimmerguy323 folds.
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 4h, Kh ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
Chelios09 checks.
Mr__Rake checks.
willbos checks.
McGee bets [$40].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$100].
Chelios09 folds.
Mr__Rake folds.
willbos folds.
McGee is all-In [$742.55]
EvilEcstasy_ is all-In [$494]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ Ah, 4s ] three of a kind, fours.
McGee shows [ Qs, Kd ] two pairs, kings and fours.
McGee wins $188.55 from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and fours.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $1218 from the main pot with three of a kind, fours.

i'm curious what your talking about repping the higher pocket pair and making lower one's fold out.

If that guy had a pocket pair he should've re-raised you on the flop....
you're playing longball with AJ and while occasionally this is a good play, blind aggression or doing this too much will cost a lot of money. He could've easily been calling a set on the flop.

and the full house hand i don't see how you aren't getting his chips. the min-raise war was pretty funny however.

Originally Posted by ender555

i'm curious what your talking about repping the higher pocket pair and making lower one's fold out.

If that guy had a pocket pair he should've re-raised you on the flop....
you're playing longball with AJ and while occasionally this is a good play, blind aggression or doing this too much will cost a lot of money. He could've easily been calling a set on the flop.

and the full house hand i don't see how you aren't getting his chips. the min-raise war was pretty funny however.

There's no way a guy with a pocket pair below the highest card on the flop re-raises, thats too risky. If anything I have top pair and he's beat.. or an overpair..

Wow, super good read on the set hand

Betting down the whole way = super good read? Uh, heh.

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

Wow, super good read on the set hand

Betting down the whole way = super good read? Uh, heh.

** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
EvilEcstasy_ is all-In [$528.43]
Vivatma calls [$528.43].
EvilEcstasy_ shows [ 4d, 4s ] three of a kind, fours.
Vivatma shows [ Ac, Jc ] a pair of aces.

When you can get Top pair mid kicked to call off 100 bb on the river when you have a set, I'll tell you it was a good read too.

On another note, stop being an asshole.

-'rilla

How am I being an asshole? I was asking a serious question. Your comment just makes little to sense. Good read by just betting down? That's a standard play.

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

How am I being an asshole? I was asking a serious question. Your comment just makes little to sense. Good read by just betting down? That's a standard play.

Standard play eh? You obviously havent played at 3/6 NL yet.. The key was I pushed all in as opposed to just betting a more marginal amount, and got called.

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

How am I being an asshole?

only assholes ask this question.

[quote="spino1i"]

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

Standard play eh? You obviously havent played at 3/6 NL yet.. The key was I pushed all in as opposed to just betting a more marginal amount, and got called.

Trying to get all in with a nearly unbeatable hand is pretty standard to me. I don't understand how it was a super strong read that made you do this. Whatever, I don't really care. AWESOME READ BRO. nh.

please leave or change your attitude. wouldn't hurt to learn about poker either..

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

Thank you Captain Obvious. Nobody ever said pushing with AK and KK are the same. I was actually saying the exact opposite. If you couldn't tell that my original statement was sarcastic, you should look into cyanide.

I just remembered you're the same person who said the above in a different thread. You are a piece of shit. Here ya go: http://www.bitchmakemeasandwich.com/

Your guys are so last week...

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

Your guys are so last week...

Hey! I remember you

Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

Thank you Captain Obvious. Nobody ever said pushing with AK and KK are the same. I was actually saying the exact opposite. If you couldn't tell that my original statement was sarcastic, you should look into cyanide.

I just remembered you're the same person who said the above in a different thread. You are a piece of shit. Here ya go: http://www.bitchmakemeasandwich.com/

nh

Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

Your guys are so last week...

Hey! I remember you

Check the tourney forums for more info

Originally Posted by spino1i

This is sort of my hand blog of various hands ive played at 3/6 NL that demonstrate and utilize the concept of a good read.. This is very important at 3/6 NL as camping doesnt get you very far anymore.

I will continue posting hands as I get them..

***** Hand History for Game 2306929075 *****
$600 NL Hold'em - Monday, July 04, 03:10:19 EDT 2005
Table Table 36989 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: PitchWise ( $1002.1 )
Seat 2: LOLORIVEREDU ( $1006.65 )
Seat 3: huligan406 ( $585 )
Seat 4: DH1977 ( $836.6 )
Seat 6: maver_geek ( $903.25 )
Seat 7: StackHead ( $1679.65 )
Seat 8: Nike24 ( $805.2 )
Seat 9: Mr__Rake ( $659.55 )
Seat 10: EvilEcstasy_ ( $600 )
Seat 5: extraethan ( $745 )
Mr__Rake posts small blind [$3].
EvilEcstasy_ posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ 5d 5h ]
PitchWise folds.
LOLORIVEREDU folds.
huligan406 folds.
DH1977 folds.
extraethan folds.
maver_geek folds.
StackHead raises [$24].
Nike24 folds.
Mr__Rake folds.
EvilEcstasy_ calls [$18].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, As, Jh ]
EvilEcstasy_ checks.
StackHead bets [$40].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$80].
StackHead folds.
EvilEcstasy_ does not show cards.
EvilEcstasy_ wins $168

On this hand, why did you chose to bluff this guy? He was the initial raiser, and that's a pretty dangerous flop. What do you do if he calls your raise? Do you play longball and bet out again? Just curious.

The minraise was a setup for a turn bet.

Or

Only an ace will call him so if op raises with a range that includes enough hands other than A-Good, he's got a good chance to win it there.

-'rilla

Originally Posted by gabe

please leave or change your attitude. wouldn't hurt to learn about poker either..

I think I'll leave. This forum sucks. Daniel Negreanu's forum is more knowledgeable than this piece of shit.

And getting someone to pay you off by leading down with a completely fucking standard betting pattern DOES NOT REQUIRE AN AMAZING READ.

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

And getting someone to pay you off by leading down with a completely fucking standard betting pattern DOES NOT REQUIRE AN AMAZING READ.

This statement is correct.

Now, can you tell me why it has no relevance to our conversation?

In the future over at Danny's forum, when you're discussing a hand, it helps to decribe the hand accurately. Hero leads down to the river, when he makes a massive overbet on the assumption that either op hit two pair or op will read massive overbet as bluff. He's missing a lot of value if his read is wrong here. If you can't understand this statement, I can't help you.

-'rilla

Originally Posted by EssWhyKay

I think I'll leave. This forum sucks. Daniel Negreanu's forum is more knowledgeable