Interesting hand line checks

opp is 25/20/4 who is kinda a laggtard. I'm not sure he's that good, he's a reg who definetely thinks to a certain level, will make hero calls, and will also bluff. Tell me if/how you play this different. I think a lot of you are going to go "I play same and c/f river" but I suggest you think about this hand more because i really dont think it's the best move.

PokerStars Game #9798534502: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/05/07 - 18:10:31 (ET)
Table 'Proteus' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: redgrape ($442 in chips)
Seat 5: nanonoko ($384 in chips)
Seat 6: BuriedJack89 ($373.60 in chips)
redgrape: posts small blind $2
nanonoko: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [Kc 7c]
BuriedJack89: folds
redgrape: raises $12 to $16
nanonoko: calls $12
*** FLOP *** [Ks 8c Qc]
redgrape: bets $20
nanonoko: calls $20
*** TURN *** [Ks 8c Qc] [2d]
redgrape: bets $66
nanonoko: calls $66
*** RIVER *** [Ks 8c Qc 2d] [Ad]
redgrape: checks
nanonoko: bets $172

u could play turn differently but nothing wrong with how u played it

i played with this guy at 25/50 some btw. he was villian in hand lukie posted in hsnl there too

Originally Posted by gabe

u could play turn differently but nothing wrong with how u played it

i played with this guy at 25/50 some btw. he was villian in hand lukie posted in hsnl there too

What do you think of betting this river (I think really any size could make sense)? Opp probably thinks im capable of two barreling and three barreling with air (Not to say that my river bet would be for value... but it could be? lol).

Yeah when I showed Lyric this hand he said he had played with this guy.

You could c/c the turn...it let's any Q guessing on the river.

I think you only beat bluffs so c/f the river.

Are we seriously putting him on an Ace here? Doesn't JT usually bump it up before the river?

If I understood hands like this against you hyper-aggros I'd play a lot more NLHE for bigger stakes.

What hands hero beats will bet that board?

Originally Posted by Fnord

Are we seriously putting him on an Ace here? Doesn't JT usually bump it up before the river?

If I understood hands like this against you hyper-aggros I'd play a lot more NLHE for bigger stakes.

i think regulars dont raise mediocre draws as much anymore to balance out their floating.

I like leading the river for ~$120.

why? to bluff K9s ? kings and queens are checking behind, AXs is probably a bet from this guy since hes not bad, hes not calling with anything worse, only thing betting does is save you from getting put in a tough spot when you are facing a flush draw which is unlikely

I just have a hard time putting him on any hand im losing to that calls a river bet that didn't play the hand un standard besides JT.
Also, it's possible he makes a super hero call with worse considering my aggression.

Your turn bet size is much larger then your flop bet size.
91.67% vs 62.5%. Why? To me it looks like you don't want him in the hand anymore, which might be why he stays in the hand.

Can Lukie come an explain why he told ISF to bet $60 and call a shove?

this is a nice river bet by villian, because it's not impossible he rivered you with AXc, AQ, A8. JT. I think he is bluffing a fair amount, BUT... I am not sure you can call.

I kind of like a check/bomb on the turn... but not if you think he will pay you if the flush hits the river anway.

zenbits i was thinking the same thing. i really like a c/r on this turn because it will fold alot of kings that have you beat and you dont have to see a most likely ugly river card OOP. i mean in raelity no matter whta hits this river unless its a 7 or club we are in a bad spot considering he calls your turn bet.

Originally Posted by Massimo

Can Lukie come an explain why he told ISF to bet $60 and call a shove?

He didnt really, i suggested that move and he said that seems fine/interesting