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    Default Interesting spot with KK

    UTG is taggy and i have been 3 betting him a good amount.
    BB is running 14/7/2 over 75 hands. i am really unsure of what to do here. he cold calls and then c/r that flop?

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    UTG ($103.90)
    Hero ($222.45)
    Button ($216.50)
    SB ($88.80)
    BB ($102.75)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K.
    UTG raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, BB calls $13, UTG folds.

    Flop: ($32.50) 2, 9, J (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $22, BB raises to $52, [color=#CC3333]Hero....eh?
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    Default Re: Interesting spot with KK

    If his range is JJ+ you have about 44.5% equity. This means you can only fold if you have to put in over $90. You have about $65 left, so push and hope he turns over QQ.

    Hand 0: 55.691% 52.71% 02.98% 8349 472.50 { JJ+ }
    Hand 1: 44.309% 41.33% 02.98% 6546 472.50 { KcKh }
  3. #3
    call and fold the turn a lot.

    He's not stacking off with QQ
  4. #4
    actually hmmm he could stack off with QQ. Still i don't stack off here.
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    Default Re: Interesting spot with KK

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyric
    If his range is JJ+ you have about 44.5% equity. This means you can only fold if you have to put in over $90. You have about $65 left, so push and hope he turns over QQ.

    Hand 0: 55.691% 52.71% 02.98% 8349 472.50 { JJ+ }
    Hand 1: 44.309% 41.33% 02.98% 6546 472.50 { KcKh }
    Dude Max don't disagree with Lyric here!

    I think this is likely AA/JJ, but QQ is less likely but still im not ruling it out at all. It also could be some random bluff.

    I'm wondering if poker stove takes into account that KK is very unlikely because we have KK?

    Oh yeah and just stack off and don't worry about it, seriously whether or not to fold in these pots aren't very important especially when there's a lot of money in.
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  6. #6
    This is like QQ or JJ 90% of the time and a flush draw/KK the other 10%. That means I stick it in here.
  7. #7
    how can u fold for 40 more on the turn
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    how can u fold for 40 more on the turn
    Yeah i mean christ even if this was 100bb stacks i cant fold.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    how can u fold for 40 more on the turn
    Yeah i mean christ even if this was 100bb stacks i cant fold.
    it is?
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    how can u fold for 40 more on the turn
    Yeah i mean christ even if this was 100bb stacks i cant fold.
    it is?
    Lol oops thought it was 200nl since OP had $200.

    No way you can fold.
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    Default Re: Interesting spot with KK

    Welcome to the boards, Lyric.
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    Default Re: Interesting spot with KK

    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Welcome to the boards, Lyric.
    He checks the commune sometimes i think.
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  13. #13
    Gabe, Will used the term coldcall correctly... what does he getas a prize!?
  14. #14
    You have been 3-betting UTG a lot, and has BB seen this? If he has, he can be calling in this spot lighter than you think.

    While you can often assume a cold call here means JJ+, where you're only really ahead of QQ on this flop. In reality some players do coldcall with hands like AJ/KJ, so these aren't impossible.. esp given that your 3-bet might get less respect.

    I can't see myself getting away here.. but I'm kind of a station
  15. #15
    good point griffey. Against a 14/7 things change a lot, because the opponent can do some weird stuff. His cold calling range obviously isnt; just JJ+, i'd put 99-TT in there too. But after putting in KJ and AJ as possibilities also, as well as some junk or QT or something, I guess I can't really say you should fold at any point in the hand.
  16. #16
    although if this guy is like a 17/13/2 100NL reg i would call the flop and fold to a substantial bet on the turn.

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