It looks sooo pretty!

Villain is a huge nit, 16/12/4. No real reads on how he plays post flop.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN ($49.25)
SB ($97.05)
Hero ($73.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 3 players) Hero is BB
BTN calls $0.5, SB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.75, BTN folds

Flop: ($5, 2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $9, SB raises to $32, $23 to Hero ($62.45)?

why would you raise the flop? as played fold for sure

in general i think u should be check-raising here, w/ like all hands but this one actually, lol ... maybe i check call bottom set too, thats about it though.

reason is vs nits range u turn your hand into a bluff basically. if its against somebody laggy then this is ok if u expect pr + FD or pr + SD or TPnk to give u action.

but vs nit, u should want to extract value from him the times he has Ax or whatever (which will be pretty often) ...

thing is ... like ... u have position here so u will know whether the turn helped him or not based on his timing/bet sizing(action) after u call the flop.

see how u r in like a sick tough spot here now? this is what we want to avoid, and why we always want to be in position ... cuz it's much easier to determine who has the better hand.

oop, i play this the same as u (well, checkraise ... but basically same play) then i fold to nits reraise.

I think this guys small blind opening range (given BU's limp) is really tight, and his reraising range is something like AA KK QQ AK AQ KhJh. I think you are crushed a lot here.

Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz

Villain is a huge nit

fold

yea definantly a fold and I did. Seems like raising flop was pretty bad too. Kinda got stuck in the duh I got two purr on a drawn board raise mindset.

Originally Posted by nutsinho

why would you raise the flop? as played fold for sure

Call the flop

is no one here folding pre? or even considering it? i realize hes 3 betting the button, but still i would imagine he has a pretty tight 3 betting range, as all players do at low stakes.

Originally Posted by Marshall28

in general i think u should be check-raising here, w/ like all hands but this one actually, lol ... maybe i check call bottom set too, thats about it though.

reason is vs nits range u turn your hand into a bluff basically. if its against somebody laggy then this is ok if u expect pr + FD or pr + SD or TPnk to give u action.

but vs nit, u should want to extract value from him the times he has Ax or whatever (which will be pretty often) ...

thing is ... like ... u have position here so u will know whether the turn helped him or not based on his timing/bet sizing(action) after u call the flop.

see how u r in like a sick tough spot here now? this is what we want to avoid, and why we always want to be in position ... cuz it's much easier to determine who has the better hand.

oop, i play this the same as u (well, checkraise ... but basically same play) then i fold to nits reraise.

why do you keep talking about check/bombing and playing oop? we are in position.

Originally Posted by will641

is no one here folding pre? or even considering it? i realize hes 3 betting the button, but still i would imagine he has a pretty tight 3 betting range, as all players do at low stakes.

its not a 3 bet, its a isolation raise over a limper. i felt like i could outplay him a lot, he was cbetting 100%.

so you tried to outplay him by raising a bluff catcher?

nah you jackass. when i hit 2 pair i don't think bluff catcher.

*edit* but i see by raising i basically turn my hand into a bluff, allthough i am charging draws. ActionDJ from cardrunners says raise/fold. I am still stuck between the two not sure which is better.

Originally Posted by will641

is no one here folding pre? or even considering it? i realize hes 3 betting the button, but still i would imagine he has a pretty tight 3 betting range, as all players do at low stakes.

I agree with this. Couldn't we also 3bet him if he's a nit as he can fold?

Why does this have to be raise/ fold. Are you sure actiondj didn't mean after he 3bets you? I think the flop is a clear call first time.

lawls

Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz

Originally Posted by will641

is no one here folding pre? or even considering it? i realize hes 3 betting the button, but still i would imagine he has a pretty tight 3 betting range, as all players do at low stakes.

its not a 3 bet, its a isolation raise over a limper. i felt like i could outplay him a lot, he was cbetting 100%.

oh shit i thought this was 25nl. sry.

In this spot against a nits range it is a bluff catcher. He's not firing multiple barrels with anything that you beat. Call the flop c/f the turn cause he shuts down with everything that you beat, maybe go for some thin value on river from all the bare aces if you get there.

Originally Posted by will641

Originally Posted by Marshall28

in general i think u should be check-raising here, w/ like all hands but this one actually, lol ... maybe i check call bottom set too, thats about it though.

reason is vs nits range u turn your hand into a bluff basically. if its against somebody laggy then this is ok if u expect pr + FD or pr + SD or TPnk to give u action.

but vs nit, u should want to extract value from him the times he has Ax or whatever (which will be pretty often) ...

thing is ... like ... u have position here so u will know whether the turn helped him or not based on his timing/bet sizing(action) after u call the flop.

see how u r in like a sick tough spot here now? this is what we want to avoid, and why we always want to be in position ... cuz it's much easier to determine who has the better hand.

oop, i play this the same as u (well, checkraise ... but basically same play) then i fold to nits reraise.

why do you keep talking about check/bombing and playing oop? we are in position.

nobody said anything about check/bombing ... i was just explaining how i might play the hand were i oop and using it as an example as to why position is so valuable in this situation leading to the final decision of calling >>>>raising.

why r u always trippin off me saying to play aggressively?

zomg 2 pairs. your hand here is a lot like having 22 on a 776 flop. and im not just saying that because they have the same hand rank and im trying to prove a point that two pair does not equal nuts, im saying that because thats basically what your hand is relative to his range.

Originally Posted by Marshall28

Originally Posted by will641

Originally Posted by Marshall28

in general i think u should be check-raising here, w/ like all hands but this one actually, lol ... maybe i check call bottom set too, thats about it though.

reason is vs nits range u turn your hand into a bluff basically. if its against somebody laggy then this is ok if u expect pr + FD or pr + SD or TPnk to give u action.

but vs nit, u should want to extract value from him the times he has Ax or whatever (which will be pretty often) ...

thing is ... like ... u have position here so u will know whether the turn helped him or not based on his timing/bet sizing(action) after u call the flop.

see how u r in like a sick tough spot here now? this is what we want to avoid, and why we always want to be in position ... cuz it's much easier to determine who has the better hand.

oop, i play this the same as u (well, checkraise ... but basically same play) then i fold to nits reraise.

why do you keep talking about check/bombing and playing oop? we are in position.

nobody said anything about check/bombing ... i was just explaining how i might play the hand were i oop and using it as an example as to why position is so valuable in this situation leading to the final decision of calling >>>>raising.

why r u always trippin off me saying to play aggressively?

yeah idk for some reason i read check call bottom pair as check bomb, lol. im not tripping i just didnt know why u were talking about being oop so much. now i do.

Originally Posted by Marshall28

i was just explaining how i might play the hand were i oop

either you can't read or you can't admit when you're wrong.

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

Originally Posted by Marshall28

i was just explaining how i might play the hand were i oop

either you can't read or you can't admit when you're wrong.

must be that i cant read cuz i cant understand u.

if im wrong im happy to admit it .. ?

i could be wrong that i cant read though ....