JJ with a K high flop

No stats on this guy. He has been at the table a while though, PT gets bogged up on Ongame after you've been playing for a few hours and stats on screen are either not there or pretty much useless. So all I know is about a half hour ago this guy pulled the same move on me and I gave him a hard time about it in the chat window saying that makes folding easy because it's always so obvious you have aces. I know I know don't give donks lessons but I really can't stand that line. He isn't a nut-camping nit, he does raise preflop. I haven't been too active at this table, but it's not like I've just been folding every hand or anything, probably running about 18/8 or so.

Basically, I put him on a pretty good PP here preflop going for the steal. Not too sure what to make of his post flop play. I definately liked the vibe I got from his turn bet though.


Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (Real Money), #253,570,454
Table Waterford, 28 Apr 2007 1:46 PM ET

Seat 1: Galapogos [ J,J ] ($97.95 in chips)
Seat 2: foreverMilan ($60.20 in chips)
Seat 3: slawcio ($85.05 in chips)
Seat 4: tiffen ($38 in chips)
Seat 9: ieatp1gs ($112.65 in chips)
Seat 10: bslafgd ($188.35 in chips)

Antes/Blinds
slawcio posts blind ($0.50), tiffen posts blind ($1).

Pre-Flop
ieatp1gs folds, bslafgd calls $1, Galapogos bets $5, foreverMilan calls $5, slawcio folds, tiffen folds, bslafgd bets $20, Galapogos calls $16, foreverMilan folds.

Flop [board cards 4,K,2 ]
bslafgd bets $20, Galapogos calls $20.

Turn [board cards 4,K,2,9 ]
bslafgd bets $20, Galapogos bets $56.95 and is all-in, bslafgd calls $36.95.

River [board cards 4,K,2,9,3 ]

if your going to make a move make it on the flop when you still have FE with a push

It wasn't a move, I honestly felt I had the best hand here. His turn bet just re-affirmed it. I'm more curious as to if it looks like I was really off on this read?

ehhh i really dont see a hand your beating making these bets, youd have to put him on 1010, or 22-88, or limp raising and contining with complete air

I fold preflop

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

I fold preflop

How often do you let him pull this play before you start fighting back? And what would your range for that be?

yea you have to fold the flop and preflop is debateable

Your reads conflict for me so idk. You say he is 18/8, but also has squeezed like this before. It's hard to tell which it is, but im willing to bet it was coincidence and his actually range here is JJ+ and AK.

ISF occasionally pretends to be a nit on the forums but in my experience with him he doesnt fold ever