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    Default KJ on K K Q T, oop 4-way

    my only read is that CO is ~40/10. i'm new.

    would you ever call pf? what would you do post flop?

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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $112.60
    UTG+1: $185
    CO: $393.25
    Button: $70.65
    Hero: $217
    BB: $421.55

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J K
    2 folds, CO raises to $7, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

    Flop: Q K K ($28, 4 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $17, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

    Turn: T ($62, 2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks.

    River: 2 ($62, 2 players)
    Hero bets $62...to get called by bluff catching hands, but fold if CO raises?
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    i think im just going to say fold preflop.
    If this is the most money you are getting from a board like this then it can't possibly be worth calling here pre.
    Personally, i'd try to get more money in, however im in limbo over what line u could use.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    its fine--trips with suspect kicker is not the best moneymaking opportunity youll see with this hand. standard call preflop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    i think im just going to say fold preflop.
    but our hand is sooo pretty
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    I really like your line up to now.

    I'd have a very tough time folding since your hand is so underrepped. WTF can cutoff possibly have that beats you and doesn't bet the turn?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    genitruc- so worth a call if he insta pushes the river? guess i should've included that part but i figured he had a boat for sure.

    euph- i wan't sure about dokning the turn...just wouldn't know what to do if raised.

    i agree with nutsinho so far, but maybe im being too cautious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    i think im just going to say fold preflop.
    but our hand is sooo pretty
    lol my exact thoughts.

    I think its a fold preflop as we are oop. But i agree calling here is not horrible by any means. Rest is standard.
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    yikes benny I really can't say for sure

    With no reads it's almost impossible to make any kind of "correct" decision since we don't know if he's the kind of player to be thinking about what you're repping.

    If he's a thinker I'm definitely closer to calling since our line looks weeeeeeeeaaaak (lol blocking bets on river I M AWWW IN HAHAHAH).

    Without reads I don't think it matters all that much. I don't think you're way ahead in terms of equity but... You have 3 of a kind!

    So yeah, kind of a cop-out answer, but I really think your line is great until now vs an unknown and facing the river push I'd flip a coin...

    Just so sick since villain's line only makes sense if he has 222KK. Everything else almost always bets the turn (why would you not call turn if you called flop vs his Q's full or 10's full?).
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Wow, I fold preflop. I'm suprised how many people feel it's standard preflop. Maybe I need to open up my blinds a litte. I only call if I want to play a lot of hands with a villian I have a read on.

    If villian is aggressive I would rather c/c river. But with no reads, I like your line.


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