kk 240bbs deep oop

he's 22/17/3, seems decent from the little i've seen (last night was the first time i've played with him), we're sitting beside each other on 2 other tables and I've been 3betting a few of his lp raises from the button, and defending strongly against his blind steals. he hasn't called or 4bet yet .

i'm a bit rusty and felt a bit lost in this hand, my 3bet really sucks, i was lazy and just clicked pot.


Noble Poker 0.50/1.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($180.00)
SB ($99.00)
BB phantom_lord ($241.40)
UTG UTG ($347.21)
UTG+1 ($99.90)
CO ($69.05)

Preflop: phantom_lord is in the BB with K K

UTG raises to 4.00, 4 folds, phantom_lord raises to 11.00, UTG raises to 34.50, phantom_lord calls 26.50.

Flop (77.50) Q 4 T
phantom_lord checks, UTG bets 55.00

You beat JJ/AA and that's about it, unless you think he's good enough to 4bet 99. PF call just barely gives you odds to set mine (which sucks to think you would be playing KK for set value only). I think you can fold, but I don't know in the heat of battle that I could.

What about 5betting to 90 pre and folding to a push?

Originally Posted by cardsman1992

You beat JJ/AA and that's about it, unless you think he's good enough to 4bet 99. PF call just barely gives you odds to set mine (which sucks to think you would be playing KK for set value only). I think you can fold, but I don't know in the heat of battle that I could.

i smell a typo!

And it stinks!!!

Good catch

One suggestion:

Because the stacks are so deep, and K-K has nasty reverse implied odds you may want to consider just calling preflop. No one else is going to be entering the pot, so you don't have to worry about letting other hands in cheaply...

You could argue that villain does get a cheap shot at our stack if we don't 3bet, but even if we re-raise there is still a ton of money behind and re-raising does little to reduced his implied odds.

And also your hands is very well disguised against A-Q when it flops TPTK., etc.

Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill

One suggestion:

Because the stacks are so deep, and K-K has nasty reverse implied odds, you may want to consider just calling preflop. No one else is going to be entering the pot, so you don't have to worry about letting other hands in cheaply...

And then what about postflop? KJo-style pot control?