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    Default KK 3bet pot vs possible floatation.

    Villain decent. Probably like 20/17 or something who cares. He ran this exact same line (the 120 bet, everything) against me on an ace high flop last time i threebet him, i had like KQ or something and folded. He's probably calling pre with a pretty wide range.

    What if the turn isn't an ace?

    POKERSTARS GAME #8904005500: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/03/14 - 20:12:55 (ET)
    Table 'Despina II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: RikaKazak ($1063.15 in chips)
    Seat 2: Renton555 ($390 in chips)
    Seat 3: tripeur77 ($331 in chips)
    Seat 4: DCal Zone ($561.20 in chips)
    Seat 5: TheCleaner11 ($399.70 in chips)
    Seat 6: EdmondT ($407.10 in chips)
    Renton555: posts small blind $2
    tripeur77: posts big blind $4

    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Renton555 [Ks Kh]

    DCal Zone: folds
    TheCleaner11: folds
    EdmondT: folds
    RikaKazak: raises $10 to $14
    Renton555: raises $30 to $44
    tripeur77: folds
    RikaKazak: calls $30

    *** FLOP *** [Tc 6s As]

    Renton555: bets $58
    RikaKazak: calls $58

    *** TURN *** [Tc 6s As] [Ad]

    Renton555: checks
    RikaKazak: bets $120
    Renton555: calls $120

    *** RIVER *** [Tc 6s As Ad] [9d]

    Renton555: checks intending to call shove getting 19038510:1
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    I dont like it.

    If you thnk hes floating then I would either checkfold and give it to him or bet 1/3 pot on turn and induce a shove.

    The problem with this line is that people love aces- not to mention TT 66 99 and there are just soooo few hands that you are ahead of that hes not checking back to get to SD with.
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    bump
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    wait what does bump mean in the context of these forums?
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    I c/f turn beause I'm a biotch.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    it means wants more replies
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    I get stacked here everytime because "he's bluffing; no way he has an ace"
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    What does he think your 3 bet range is here or at least how frequently has he seen you three bet? I can't give any helpful advice but I'm trying to think it through.
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    I'd rather just two barrel the turn.
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    Marginal spot. I'd call down sometimes not always. If you call turn I think you have to call river like you said.

    Maybe c/r flop small if you think he's floating? At least this would be cheaper than risking a whole stack to find out he has an A or not. Just an idea.
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    Villain's line is super strong, I would fold the turn. I realllly dont see him holding anything other than a boat or trip aces on the turn.

    As played I'd c/f the river and save myself 200$.
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    Floating in a reraised pot is very unlikely me thinks.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    yeah but he did this line twice in one orbit. Did he have trips or a boat both times?
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    I like it
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    I hate these spots so much.
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    the more I look at this the more I think you can C/F river.
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    yeah but he did this line twice in one orbit. Did he have trips or a boat both times?
    In the first hand did another A pop up on the turn?
    The question is, why did you play KQ and KK the same here? I would be more inclined the c/c flop & turn OOP with with KK... but maybe this is too passive in a re-raised pot.
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    im goddamn awful in these spots and want to call so much given what we know, but then id have to give opp a lot of credit to be bluffing here.
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    he checked back KQ.

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