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    Default line check and river decision

    villain is 83/33/3 over only 25 hands. has called sizeable flop and turn bets twice w/ a bare gutshot draw

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($82.35)
    SB ($49.50)
    BB ($55.85)
    Hero ($78.55)
    MP ($49.25)
    CO ($57.80)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
    Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, BB calls $1.50.

    Flop: ($4.25) 6, 8, 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $3.5, BB calls $3.

    Turn: ($11.25) 2 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $6.50.

    River: ($25.25) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $17, BB raises to $37.5, Hero ???
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
  2. #2
    I think I actually like a fold here. Double lead, even after you raised the flop and then the river check/raise.
    Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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    maaan, that's so so so sick, idk what to do there..

    I make it like 5.5 on flop and bigger than pot on turn, these donkbets are usually shit that can't fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    maaan, that's so so so sick, idk what to do there..

    I make it like 5.5 on flop and bigger than pot on turn, these donkbets are usually shit that can't fold.
    my thinking on bet sizing was that i didnt want to blow him out of the pot since id seen him take similar lines w/ bare gutshots twice. He only donked the flop in those two hands though.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    maaan, that's so so so sick, idk what to do there..

    I make it like 5.5 on flop and bigger than pot on turn, these donkbets are usually shit that can't fold.
    my thinking on bet sizing was that i didnt want to blow him out of the pot since id seen him take similar lines w/ bare gutshots twice.
    Good point.

    Thing is (using strange logic), your bet sizing is bad because you're put to a sick decision on the river getting sick pot odds.. I'm not saying I'd do better or anything but it's a conclusion you can't avoid, which is why I advocated making the river a formality.
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    noted.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Every bet and raise here should be pretty much pot so you can get your stack in. And with an overpair with great odds against an uber-donk you really shouldn't fold the river.
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    Lol if he has 45.

    I like flop and turn play vs this guy on this board.
    I usually check behind river vs donks if I think they've been drawing to avoid this, or make a very small bet - one they might call with a weak hand, or one they might bluff raise with missed draw.
    As played it just makes the pot to big, on a very connected board with just
    1pr hand & I would be pissed if I put 37$ into a 25$ pot once he sucked out.
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    Yeah I call out of confusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Every bet and raise here should be pretty much pot so you can get your stack in. And with an overpair with great odds against an uber-donk you really shouldn't fold the river.

    I agree with this until river, I just check behind. The minbets in these situations at this stakes usually mean im REALLY weak, looking for my magic card, or I have TEH NYUTZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    therefore on river i check behind, hes definitely gonna try tricky if you've been betting huge each st. and if he didn't get magic card he foldz.

    basically my minbetter philosophy is raise pot until river, then be cautious

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