Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
So we're effectively maximizing our equity vs. his range by not threebetting.. so even though we've got what looks like a sexy top 15% style hand, we're best off playing against a very wide range that we beat marginally (60/40) than a narrow range that has us beat (40/60).. nice.

Also, if he folds way too much postflop, is it more +EV to take the bum-end of the range equity in exchange for fold equity?
If I had 86s would you even be mentioning about preflop? Probably not, but in fact that hand is a threebet a lot against this type of player. AT has very little value against his range and there's no doubt if we see a flop OOP im -EV for the rest of the hand. Calling pre we're obviously +EV against his range and have a lot of value when we flop and A or a T. Threebet pot we have no value in an A or a T.

Considering he's calling about 20% of my threebets its +EV to threebet any hand (obviously, if I did this his call % would go way up), but its not +EV in the whole strategy of the match.
What you are saying is that calling AT pf has a higher expected value then 3 betting with it, but your original reply made it sound like 3 betting with AT would be -EV because we would be behind his calling range which is not the case.