Quote Originally Posted by dj newman
Mboyd most certainly has an over-pair....as for citizen...draw of some sort probably. I would flat call, and hope Mboyd stays in. Deride doesn't worry me too much...doesn't matter if you raise or not, since Deride will be all in either way if he calls. If Mboyd stays in, you can bet the turn and river and he is working on 2 outs. There is the possibility that Mboyd has AKc...then he has 9 outs, although he might stay either way with this hand.
He will have 7 live outs on turn if he hasnt hit his flush by then..

I usually raise here in order to make it HU/3-way and increase my chance of winning the pot (this can be seen as value raise as well). If your opponents arent on flush or straight draws they will surely be scared when a scare card hits. I want to get as much money as possible in the pot on the flop here.