Misplayed AKs, now what: nut flush facing river c/r on paired board?

[bikes]

Probably calling but ???? @ pre logic

[shakesss]

never folding and might consider shoving if the dynamics are right. His c/r % should give u a clue about whether he does this often enough for it to be a bluff. AF 3 ppl might not take check/call lines with flush draws on this board often enough for us to be dominating other flushes. He might take check/call lines with 10-9 sorta hands coz the boards pretty good for ur perceived range and he wouldnt wanna get raised oop deep with a weak one piar hand. If he thinks ur spewey then ur probably pretty polarized after betting the river and if he has a 10 he might just ship to look polarized as well and hope to get called by a really weak bluff catcher. I think he could do this for value with QT, 66 or 44.

[Lukie]

Probably calling but ???? @ pre logic

agreed

I'll add that if he 4-bets pre, it isn't a mandatory shove, calling is an option as well. Depending on sizing and perceived ranges I very well might shove, though.

Maybe think less in the terms of 'oh noez 165bb deep need kk/aa' and more in the terms of how often you could/should be 3-betting his opens bb/sb with those sizes and the situation becomes a lot clearer.

[Robin]

Thanks for the replies. Yeah, my thinking pre-flop was dumb as I already said. He showed up with QQ so std. cooler post I guess... I actually thought a bunch of people might say "lol, river c/r from a 100NL reg is always the nuts, fold ldo".

The interesting part of this thread is that I was putting him on a very narrow range for this and you guys are giving him a much wider range (adding hands I thought he would surely raise on the flop or the turn). Dammit handreading is really hard.