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  1. #1

    Default not much cop at flush draws either

    OK, second post so take the gloves off. Oh and thanks for the previous help.

    So the table is playing super loose UTG, UTG+1 and MP are playing VPIP figures of 65, 54,56 limping and calling most raises. The button is a pretty solid 33/9 regular although I tend to stay away from these types I have played 200 ish hands against him. BB is desperately trying to throw his stack in on top pair, which is why I limped Pre-flop.

    My thinking in this hand was trying to put Villain on a range after the flop. I was thinking this looks like either suited A3, A5 ,55,33 or he's on the flush draw which is why I played it so passively. I still don't like the line.

    STAGE #595127915: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $0.50 - 2007-03-06 09:38:29 (ET)
    Table: TABLE NO:000035 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
    Seat 4 - VILLAIN ($94 in chips)
    Seat 5 - KAGEY22 ($73.20 in chips)
    Seat 6 - BB ($8.55 in chips)
    Seat 1 - UTG ($49.19 in chips)
    Seat 2 - UTG+1 ($50.18 in chips)
    Seat 3 - MP ($15.65 in chips)
    KAGEY22 - Posts small blind $0.25
    TWEETY1947 - Posts big blind $0.50
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to KAGEY22 [Jh Ah]
    UTG - Raises $1 to $1
    UTG+1 - Folds
    MP - Calls $1
    VILLAIN - Calls $1
    KAGEY22 - Calls $0.75
    BB - Calls $0.50
    *** FLOP *** [5h Ac 3h]
    KAGEY22 - Bets $3
    BB - Folds
    UTG - Folds
    MP - Folds
    VILLAIN - Raises $7 to $7
    KAGEY22 - Calls $4
    *** TURN *** [5h Ac 3h] [9c]
    KAGEY22 - Checks
    VILLAIN - Bets $9
    KAGEY22 - Calls $9
    *** RIVER *** [5h Ac 3h 9c] [5d]
    KAGEY22 - Checks
    VILLAIN - Checks

    Any advice on all streets and especially interested on the pre-flop thinking OOP against these type of players.
    I don't know whether I should push the flop and I generally feel weak in these spots.
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    I think it's fine. Pushing flop will led to calls from 2-pairs / Ace-better kicker meaning you're at best in a bad coin-toss situation (12 outs -- 47%).

    Did villain have his A3 counterfeited?
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    i dont lead out, i check call the flop and if on the turn its starts looking like AK/AQ get out.
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    Isn't the reason we lead the flop to 3town it AI?

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    i dont lead out, i check call the flop and if on the turn its starts looking like AK/AQ get out.
    We have showdown value + 12 clean outs we're not folding the turn ever really.
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    get more money in on the flop, you have a great hand. bet, and when he raises, you reraise.

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