openraising any PP in 6-max

This might have been discussed before. But do you openraise any PP regardless of position and type of opponents in 6-max games? And why?
Until now I've been openraising 99+ UTG and lesser PPs when I get closer to the button. But now that I've moved up to NL100 I've been pondering about openraising any PP regardless of the table and position and cbetting the flop under the right circumstances.

at a tight table this is def. +EV.

The only time I'd not do that is at a table that 3bets alot. That would suck.

i open raise everything, unless table likes to reraise, which is rare

Originally Posted by gabe

i open raise everything, unless table likes to reraise, which is rare

gabe whats your 3betting range in position against a decent player at sixmax?

what about from the blinds?

i reraise 99+ AJs+ AQ+ against a button open raiser when im on BB and bet almost every flop.

when i'm in position ill reraise with anything...the worse the player, the tighter my reraising standards are. i pretty much always reraise JJ+ AK.

Almost always raise pocket pairs. The only time I wouldn't we be UTG with 44 - 22 , in which case I'd just limp in playing them for set value only. Since I raise almost every unraised pot (when I have a hand) limping UTG scares most people behind me into just calling. And even if someone does raise behind me all the better, this way when I hit my set I can check to them on flop knowing that they will bet.

Originally Posted by Murd0c

...limping UTG scares most people behind me into just calling....

or it makes them think you might be weak because you finally just called..

I think open raising pocket pairs is +EV from any spot at most tables. Sometimes i fold low pockets utg, because it's usually not profitable to limp them at 6-max. depends on how aggressive your table is.

So give a raise range then for pp's. If you want UTG, MP, LP. Or should the range be the same, 3x, 4x, 5x? Depends on the pair?

25NL
50NL
100NL
200NL
Higher if you want.

I'm asking this because on most every site i've played 6 max on I do ok. But on B2B sites I'm getting ate up. I'm pretty sure its because I play too tight and limp alot. Also loosing alot with blinds comming around more, simply because I'm not in enough hands I think.

if the table is raising almost every orbit, fold 22-55 at any stake utg and utg+1. raise every other pocket pair from every position, at any stake.

if the table ISNT raising a lot, usually the case at .25,.50 NL then limping is probably the best play as C-bet's aren't respected. Just adjust to your table. Generally limping in 6-max is a bad play, unless you can't get people to fold with continuation bets, and they call with any pair/gutshot.

I raise all PPs and AJ/KQ+ in all positions (more stuff in LP). I raise so often and cbet the flop so often that:
1. If I check a flop OOP to 2+ callers, I often get checked behind because it throws them off and they think I'm slowplaying a monster. Then I take it down with even a modest 1/2 pot on the turn often.
2. When somebody has an overpair or TPTK (or TPGK) and I hit my set, they tend not to believe me until I show them.

Aggression is key in 6max. By expanding the hands you are aggressive with, you make it very difficult for your opps to read you and the tight ones get paranoid when they don't hold the nuts. Last night some guy insisted I had a set of 2's and layed down QQ on an all under board to me after already committing a good chunk of his stack. I had a nice draw and that's it. He didn't like that I just called his flop bet and then reraised the turn.

It's funny because I rarely end up allin and rarely 3bet as bluffs or on draws. Yet after playing this way for 2 hours against the same opps on 2+ tables, somebody will just hand me their stack when I go ballistic on a 396 rainbow flop and they have overs. They just view me as an aggressive player and they aren't backing down this time. I make my share of donk and loose plays too, which helps - but those are usually smaller pots.

I was on a downswing for about a week and at one point I played weak-tight. Only raising and calling with the best of it. That doesn't seem to work well at 6max. I wasn't getting action when I had big hands unless I was beat. You don't have to be super-LAGG, but keeping aggression up and pressuring people seems to work well. Raising all PPs preflop is a good starting point IMO.

Edit: This is on B2B 100NL 6max btw.

I can't say it better than that, based on my small sample at 200nl 6max. Aggressive, esp pre flop/cbet = good. I was up a nice buy in or so last night AND I could not win a pot with AA/KK.

Originally Posted by r8ed

I was on a downswing for about a week and at one point I played weak-tight. Only raising and calling with the best of it.

This is exactly what I have been doing. In fact if you look at my pokertracker stats my VP$P is 13.2 and my PFR is 0.92 and my aggression factor is 1.49 which is up from what it was at 0.9.

This does not count the 6 max B2B tables I have been playing. But I doubt its too much different, except for the VP$P which I have increased to probably around 20%, but I doubt any of the other stats have changed.

All I know is this is a loosing combination at the 50NL 6 max on B2B and a bigger loosing combination on the 20NL 6 max or full ring. (Im talking about the way I have been playing it.)

Every site I have played I've been able to play break even or slightly above playing this way just to clear the bonuses, but B2B is just the opposite.

B2B is a different beast. It's hard to explain until you play there. Poker is poker and odds are odds - but in that universe things don't add up somehow. The only way I counteract it is to keep pots manageable unless I have the nuts or close to it. That is unless I have a good read and can play off it (which is fairly often). Don't overdefend TPTK or TPGK.

How about this for 6max on B2B? Raise (3xbb + 1bb per limper) or fold preflop every hand (since you are playing top hands anyway). Cbet the flop (1/2 to 3/4). Back off if called or reraised unless you hit (unless you have a read). Profit. I don't see how this can be worse than weak-tight. You don't have to do it and don't get mad if it doesn't work for you, but it's just a suggestion. There are several juicy B2B bonuses so you may be spending lots of time there. Make sure you have enough money in there to sustain some downswings. GL. Sorry for the thread hijack.

Originally Posted by Rabid Dog

my PFR is 0.92

All I know is this is a loosing combination at the 50NL 6 max on B2B and a bigger loosing combination on the 20NL 6 max or full ring. (Im talking about the way I have been playing it.)

PFR of .9 is a huge leak and it should get your attention immediately, if you didn't already realize

Originally Posted by r8ed

B2B is a different beast. It's hard to explain until you play there. Poker is poker and odds are odds - but in that universe things don't add up somehow. The only way I counteract it is to keep pots manageable unless I have the nuts or close to it. That is unless I have a good read and can play off it (which is fairly often). Don't overdefend TPTK or TPGK.

How about this for 6max on B2B? Raise (3xbb + 1bb per limper) or fold preflop every hand (since you are playing top hands anyway). Cbet the flop (1/2 to 3/4). Back off if called or reraised unless you hit (unless you have a read). Profit. I don't see how this can be worse than weak-tight. You don't have to do it and don't get mad if it doesn't work for you, but it's just a suggestion. There are several juicy B2B bonuses so you may be spending lots of time there. Make sure you have enough money in there to sustain some downswings. GL. Sorry for the thread hijack.

Im open to anything that will help, theres lots of bonus there to be made.

Originally Posted by Greedo017

PFR of .9 is a huge leak and it should get your attention immediately, if you didn't already realize

Oh yeah, I've always known this. For some reason I just cant make myself get aggressive. Maybe its because I'm just bonus hunting and think of my main goal is to just come as close to break even as possible in order to clear as much of the bonus as possible. Does that make sense. I do know I need to change that way of thinking.

By the way, sorry for thread jacking also. But at least its all on subject

b2b is horrible.
100nl especially.

I adapt my style to 2 tables of 100nl playing quite laggy knowing that all the tighties dont know how to deal with that. Besides the point they only choose to play big pots with a set and nothing else.

Below that its just calling station and fish. You just cant c-bet all that succesfully at this site.
Still, i have had tables where its worked but as a rule c-bets seem -ev to me on their