Select Page
Poker Forum
Over 1,292,000 Posts!
Poker ForumShort-Handed NL Hold'em

Play it from villain's perspective: What did I have?

Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1

    Default Play it from villain's perspective: What did I have?

    PokerStars Game #5311433007: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/06/20 - 15:13:27 (ET)
    Table 'Etamin IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: mental420 ($27.45 in chips)
    Seat 2: johnnyBuz ($22.25 in chips)
    Seat 3: OneChaz29 ($29.75 in chips)
    Seat 4: Bluff It All ($26.15 in chips)
    Seat 5: jt4jc4always ($42.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: dusiciel ($77.20 in chips)
    mental420: posts small blind $0.10
    johnnyBuz: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to OneChaz29 [Td 8d]
    OneChaz29: calls $0.25
    Bluff It All: calls $0.25
    jt4jc4always: folds
    dusiciel: folds
    mental420: folds
    johnnyBuz: checks
    *** FLOP *** [9h 3s 7h]
    johnnyBuz: checks
    OneChaz29: bets $0.75
    Bluff It All: folds
    johnnyBuz: calls $0.75
    *** TURN *** [9h 3s 7h] [6h]
    johnnyBuz: checks
    OneChaz29: bets $1
    johnnyBuz: calls $1
    *** RIVER *** [9h 3s 7h 6h] [Jd]
    johnnyBuz: checks
    OneChaz29: bets $2
    johnnyBuz: raises $6 to $8
    OneChaz29: calls $6
    *** SHOW DOWN ***

    a) What did I have?

    b) Did you like my river reraise?
    Liter of cola.
  2. #2
    You probably had a flush and you figured the guy had a straight. So you slowplayed it.
  3. #3
    You had Kxs or Axs of hearts. Good river bet for value, maybe bet a little more though.

    On the turn I would have re-raised with the flush draw, since that enables you to get a free river card 80% of the time.

    PocketFives - allLiving
    Pokerstars - [595-ESCAPE]
  4. #4
    well you guys sniffed that one out pretty quick. i had q5 of hearts in the bb. i didn't put him on kxs or axs, so i was fairly confident my flush was good.

    how much more could i have gotten out of him on the river though? and would reraising the turn give my hand away since i check/called, check/reraised?

    i thought waiting to the river gave me the best chance to disguise my hand. maybe he thought i had JJJ or something? i don't know. but with a straight he probably would have called a little bit more, like $10 maybe?
    Liter of cola.
  5. #5
    Lead the flop. Check-calling is such an obvious draw line. Leading builds the pot for when you hit and does a better job of disguising your hand. The turn action could have been really good here with both of you hitting your draws at the same time, maybe getting it all-in by the river.
  6. #6
    johnny_fish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    2,103
    Location
    donkaments weeeeeeeeeeee
    I usually bet all streets (excl pf). Don't know if it's optimal. I hate slowplaying flushes too.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Lead the flop. Check-calling is such an obvious draw line. Leading builds the pot for when you hit and does a better job of disguising your hand. The turn action could have been really good here with both of you hitting your draws at the same time, maybe getting it all-in by the river.
    this seems to make sense. if i bet the flop, and then the turn, he probably would have reraised making his 6-T straight, then i should 3bet him all-in correct? unless he raised a significant amount, i don't think that would work and he would fold though. but the river would improve his hand even more, and i could get another chunk out of him.

    so i did leave a decent amount of money on the table here. is it always apropriate to bet your draws when you are fairly certain a made draw will give you the nuts?
    Liter of cola.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
    if i bet the flop, and then the turn, he probably would have reraised making his 6-T straight, then i should 3bet him all-in correct? unless he raised a significant amount, i don't think that would work and he would fold though. but the river would improve his hand even more, and i could get another chunk out of him.
    That's the general idea.You'd be worried about a higher flush in this instance but, yes, assuming you didn't lose your nerve you could get it all-in.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
    so i did leave a decent amount of money on the table here. is it always apropriate to bet your draws when you are fairly certain a made draw will give you the nuts?
    It depends...
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Lead the flop. Check-calling is such an obvious draw line. Leading builds the pot for when you hit and does a better job of disguising your hand. The turn action could have been really good here with both of you hitting your draws at the same time, maybe getting it all-in by the river.
    In answer to your question... it depends...
    alias2211.com poker
  10. #10
    gabe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    13,804
    Location
    trying to live
    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Lead the flop. Check-calling is such an obvious draw line. Leading builds the pot for when you hit and does a better job of disguising your hand. The turn action could have been really good here with both of you hitting your draws at the same time, maybe getting it all-in by the river.
    i might check call here with 95o or something similiar

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •