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  1. #1

    Default Possible to get away from this?

    Villan was playing alot of hands and calling preflop with ATC. I seem to run into this type of player quite a bit. My question is was I correct in calling his shove, or should I have been able to get away from my hand?

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    Full Tilt Poker Game #7302363573: Table Count (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:17:06 ET - 2008/07/20
    Seat 1: Ztech ($10.60)
    Seat 2: Tommyracer ($3.15)
    Seat 3: muleplow ($6.55)
    Seat 4: grubasek11 ($8.50)
    Seat 5: mcscarface ($4)
    Seat 6: KasoTheLion ($1.75)
    muleplow posts the small blind of $0.05
    grubasek11 posts the big blind of $0.10
    mcscarface posts $0.10
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Ztech [Ad Kd]
    mcscarface checks
    KasoTheLion calls $0.10
    Ztech has 15 seconds left to act
    Ztech raises to $0.40
    Tommyracer folds
    muleplow folds
    grubasek11 calls $0.30
    mcscarface folds
    KasoTheLion calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [Js Td Kh]
    grubasek11 checks
    KasoTheLion bets $1.35, and is all in
    Ztech has 15 seconds left to act
    Ztech raises to $4
    Tommyracer has been disconnected
    grubasek11 raises to $8.10, and is all in
    Ztech calls $4.10
    *** TURN *** [Js Td Kh] [7h]
    *** RIVER *** [Js Td Kh 7h] [9d]

    ***Results are in White below***
    grubasek11 shows two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Ztech shows a pair of Kings
    grubasek11 wins the side pot ($12.15) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    KasoTheLion shows a pair of Kings
    grubasek11 wins the main pot ($4.90) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    KasoTheLion is sitting out
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $18.90 Main pot $5.40. Side pot $13.50. | Rake $1.85
    Board: [Js Td Kh 7h 9d]
    Seat 1: Ztech showed [Ad Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 2: Tommyracer (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: muleplow (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: grubasek11 (big blind) showed [Kc Jc] and won ($17.05) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Seat 5: mcscarface folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: KasoTheLion showed [6h Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
  2. #2
    raising the flop was a mistake here with a player to act behind you and the fact you dont have that strong of a hand. Even though he plays atc and is an overall donk that doesnt mean he raises or stacks off really lightly, but due to your raise your potsuck and have to call the last 4 bucks. The way id play it is to simply call the all in and if grubasek then raises id be more inclined to fold. It realy depends how lightly this guy stacks off and whether hes a passive donk or agro donk.
  3. #3
    The reason i just call is that it gives you plenty of room to fold to a push from grub and if he just calls you can likely establish you have him beat and that his range mainly consists of hands like jq,tq,j9,109, weak kings and other weak str8 draws. Thus if the turn is a blank (basically any card under a 9 that doesnt improve our hand) you can push. half the time hell just fold on the flop anyway so youll be hu with the shortstack regardless without having to pot comit yourself with a vulnerable hand.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    as has been said, the play vs the shorty's shove is 100% just to call. Our hand is a pretty easssy fold vs a c/r from any type of player other than a complete lunatic donk in this spot, so you really don't want to tie yourself to the pot by making an isolation raise .
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